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Interaction with other people is more of a i-don't-give-a-shit-who-you-are anymore. Take it or leave it is much easier.
Life is more relaxed - that constant stress of being broke is gone. But there are other problems that come up when some problems go away. Stuff that appeared smaller before (how do I get people to like me, for example), now seem more important.
Also, does one need to show some type of credit report or can one just come in with a bunch of cash and wave it around and get a place?
What do you think of the fact that score based systems will lead to a very one-track kind of thinking process coming out of those schools?
Of course, you realise what you're saying then? You're saying you want 30% of all students in all elite colleges to likely come from new york. That's going to create a very monotonous, one-track kind of thought coming out of those places. Those schools that are currently the best in the world, will start producing similar thinking people with little exposure to diversity of thought or diversity of individuals.
Is that what you want? You are willing to fundamentally change the characters of these schools to meet some criteria of 'fair' that basically only uses a single attribute to judge people?
People who are raised in a lower class from which there is no breaking out become apathetic. In the west-indies or in Africa, even though they were poor, they could always become rich. They could always become upper class just by working hard and making money.
In the U.S, this was impossible until very very recently, because just by being black, you could not be upper class. If MTV would not play black music, then what white man would say 'sir' to a black man in the 80s?
When there is no opportunity for you to advance, you become apathetic and resigned to your fate. It's difficult to work hard when you have already been told you'll never get promoted.
Immigrant blacks don't see the ceiling. As more immigrant blacks come in, the american black children are looking up to these people, and the attitudes are changing. But this is a slow process, and would be accelerated by increasing the average educational level of the American black.
That's the same problem you have - your society strongly associates black with negative. That stereotype will continue to exist, unless there is a proper movement of blacks into the standard college educated strata. Otherwise, they stay down in the 'untouchable' caste.
The child of a white person who was once poor does not have this stigma anymore. But the black persons child is still stuck with the stigma, because it's part of his skin-color.
That's the problem - your lower class is also the black class, and if you want to do things only the 'just' way, then it will remain that way for a long time to come.
And by the way, if you want equal admissions, then accept that you will not get into those schools because chinese immigrants and jewish people will probably get the best scores. So please, advocate merit based only or advocate that the school can choose, and accept that it can choose blacks.
Your solution for the societal crisis you face is to keep those at the bottom at the bottom, just so that your kids will have a 0.002% higher chance of entering one of a few colleges.
You have a large underclass of people whose parents were raised in institutionalised dicrimination. These people are the lowest caste of your society. There is a policy in place that favours a very few of these people to get into spots they would not otherwise get into.
Without this, the status-quo would continue to exist. The problem is this - the status quo is pretty bad. Blacks are less educated, less likely to get jobs, need more welfare, have higher crime rate.
To me, getting more into college seems like it would solve some of those problems.
All these people who cry out for affirmative action to be removed, I will see them write two pages about why it should not be there, but they will never advocate the really fair solution, because it will make them extremlely unlikely to ever get into the schools.
What you are saying is pretty silly, by the way. An elite school like that is admitting perhaps 50 black people. Are you saying of all the applications from black people they received, they did not find 50 that met the cut-off mark? That's a bit unlikely, is it not?
The score of the blacks may have been below the average of the other admitees, but they were not BAD. It's an elite school, they will not put dunces in there, and there are certainly enough black applicants with the appropriate scores.
If you want a score based system, then say so and accept that whites will be a tiny minority in those schools. But don't try to have this hybrid thing that keeps the whites in and the blacks out.
Either scores and nothing else, or let the schools decide. Choose one, and lobby for that, and not AGAINST affirmative action.
Was there not a problem with one of those schools where 40% where jewish when admission was only based on test-scores?
So in the medium term, the current state that the black community is in will change towards a more intellectual and educated one.
Yes, those 5% may become factory managers or programmers or something similar, which is great. But those 5% black people, will act as role models for the other 30 million black people that currently form the largest social underclass, and are responsible for a lot of social problems at the moment.
So I'd say that the second goal, that of creating an educated black populace, creating a 'cosby family' that the current underclass can look up to, is more important than creating another bland middle-manager.
What this implies is that there will be a diverse range of skin color across all classes, reducing the perception that black skin implies lower class.
Doing so only for conservatives does nothing to help this goal.
The immigrants are coming in not feeling like they are the bottom of the barrel.
Europe, which is pretty diverse, is also massively successful.
So it's okay to select mid western people, because they are different from new york people, but it's not okay to select black over white?
Those picky schools mix and match to have a wide array of people. They don't just use scores. If they did, there would be a lot of chinese immigrants and russians jews in there.
The difference between two people because of their geographical distance is as great as the difference because of their race.
Yes, there is this theoretical moral debate about what is right and what is wrong, but the real effect of doing what you say is right, would result in universities of only asians and whites, and the blacks mostly doing manual labour.
Is THAT right?
These people who are at the bottom will stay even more firmly entrenched at the bottom, will commit more crime and continue to justify the stereotypes.
If you believe that blacks are dumber than anyone else (like the linked article), then you have to support affirmative action, otherwise you are setting up a society segregated by intelligence, which will also directly correspond to skin color.
So blacks will always be at the bottom, and people of black skin will automatically fall into that category with very little chance of getting out, even if they are clever, as there will be many people justifying the opposite stereotype.
Imagine all colleges had 5% less space for students. That's the only effect of affirmative action. If you want to campaign for something, then campaign that 5% more students should be taken in - one for every student who got in as a result of affirmative action. That's a win-win.
And how much of your name-recognition is due to your blog, and how much is due to how much you comment on social websites like this? It seems to me your comment output far exceeds your blog output.
The complexities would have to be abstracted away, and if they were space travelling, the abstractions have to be reliable. So probably, by the time we meet them, they have some type of black-box elementary code particulars for many different functions that everyone needs to join together to produce machines.
Probably, they would have developed some type of inform interface method, where you can specify what you want in and out and the appropriate atomic block gets delivered to you. They would have some type of global repository that harnesses the power of many different individuals working on problems to avoid any form of repetition.
Currently, we interface with code through typing. This is inefficient for us, and we don't know how they will coummicate. However, for them to be capable of abstract though, they will need to create pictures in their mind. It does not seem farfetched to assume that they have much faster interfacing methods that work directly on pictures they visualise. This allows them join the atomic blocks much quicker.
In effect, they will try to eliminate the manual work entirely, and only do the specifications part of things (tell it what you want), and let the computer build the rest of the things.
On the other hand, perhaps they lack our sense of moral, and will work with biological computers, and not metal-based.