jcgrillo

Sure, and why not? And there's an even higher level of government above that one. And if we really start misbehaving, there's an international level above that one... I think computer nerds call that kind of thing "defense in depth".

You don't need to print anything, just visit your neighborhood hardware store

You can make all of those things. First you pick up two sticks and rub them together real good (maybe use the inner bark of a hickory tree or similar to make some cordage s.t. you can make a bow drill and rub them even better.. you may find cottonwood to your liking but I did it with green maple when I was 11 so if you can't lmao look inwards). Using the little coal you've created, build a fire. Now pile a bunch of wood on it and starve it for oxygen. Great, you've created charcoal. Now skin a big animal and make bellows from its hide. Now build a big fire and blast it with the bellows to make it rull friggen hot. Put some rocks in it that have iron in them. Collect the iron from the bottom of the fire (exercise left to the reader) into a stone tub. Build a few forms using wood, sand, and wax in the shapes of the various parts a lathe. Melt the iron in the stone tub and pour it into the forms. Scrape the mating surfaces of the lathe parts flat and clean with a hard stone.

They cannot take this shit away. It's futile.

Manufacture a bunch of guns with a lathe instead lmao. Or if they try to take that away, forge weld smoothbore musket barrels the old way with bar stock spiraled around a mandrel. Just make sure you use enough 20 team mule and hear a crack every time, or it could make a mess when you proof it ;)

The next town over from where I live has basically no rules. No zoning, if you want to turn your property into a junkyard go right ahead! Even still, people are successfully fighting against a trash company putting in a landfill. I believe the levers they're pulling are a state wetlands permit and a state solid waste permit. The system is working.

In a lot of systems the kind of rigid guardrails we have in computers are counterproductive. It descends into a epicyclical, fractal mess of special-cased exceptions, none of which faithfully models the actual system [EDIT: an example which illustrates both this problem and how following through through can--if successful!--yield interesting results is in the preface to The Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics: https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/6946/sicm-html/bo...].

Some problems that seem straightforward at first blush might in fact be AGI-complete--that is they require actual judgment and reasoning to solve. I'm not making the specific claim that the clerical work you're describing is one of those, but it could take a large amount of data modeling work to determine whether it is.

This is what makes finding productive AI (EDIT: I mean ML, AI == AGI and we don't have that) applications so challenging. It's why my money is firmly not on a big AI revolution anytime soon, despite the demonstrated capability of language models.

OK but I already gave it 2yrs. How many 2yr grace periods do they get before it becomes clear they're simply lying?

It really doesn't help to have stuff like this in print:

> a technology that could power a surge in productivity and incomes, help find cures for untreatable diseases and improve everything from education to green tech.

They just take these claims completely uncritically and move on. Where is the productivity increase? Where are the cured diseases? Where are the improvements in education and green tech? So far, it's all a big fat zero. Maybe in 2yrs some of this will actually be true? Is that the hope?

This is scammer shit. If any of this was true you wouldn't have to ask for extra time.

EDIT: The fact we're all calling this "AI" is part of the problem. It's not AI yet, it's still ML. The Overton red-shift comes for us all in the end.

It's a Scott McNealy quote[0].

[0] https://www.information-age.com/mcnealy-and-ellison-usher-in...

> a writhing mass of copulating tapeworms

What a metaphor! I will file that one away for some glorious future opportunity.

Why not include 6 then? I remember when I got the Marathon Trilogy Box Set from the Apple store (before they were called that) in Keene, NH whenever the fuck it was before 2000--maybe 1998? It came with 3+ CDs, a book, a crazy box, and a poster. I will remember to the day I die that beautiful visage of a space marine ripping an alien's skull and spine out of its body with his bare hands. Surely games companies these days can get their act together to put their games on a usb drive or whatever and put it in a box.

And also do shit like this: https://youtu.be/WlRM9-Rm34Q?si=Trv2-Nivxr5PBC9k

children of the zombie corn

idk anything about games these days, but that mudbogger stang is sick

Thanks for the link, that is an interesting writeup!

> Nobody got "left behind" from the Internet, even cranky 80 year olds...

This is actually false. There are plenty of 80+ year olds in care facilities and living alone that are disadvantaged by the implicit assumption that everyone has a smartphone or an email address. Unable to communicate with their bank, insurance company, care providers, etc. All down to your "inclusive progress".

Call it what it is: an extractive, inhumane power grab meant to monopolize everyone's attention.

And that was tech's Big Success Story. Everything since has been trying to re-live those glory days.

As far as I'm aware they never explicitly kicked the generational hornets' nest, but I'm not a scholar of AI goober drivel

> You guys have the opportunity to be generation AI—where you come into the workforce saying, ‘I know this a lot better than all of you'

Yeah, it was expressly my intent to shut this kind of nonsense down. This is just a different version of "get on board right now or you'll all be left behind". Enough with the lying.

I'm old too, it isn't about that. He's desperately trying to guilt young people into glomming onto his profoundly uncool thing by playing on some ancient "digital native" trope. It's, well, some boomer type shit.

Such an out of touch attempt to get the youths onboard the hype train.. ok boomer.

They're all clowns. None of them are credible. TBH this extends much further down than the C-suite. Generally it seems like something happens to people's brains when they hit roughly Director+ where they just start spouting absolute nonsense.

Yeah unfortunately there will be some high quality reports that get erroneously discarded, but so long as the signal/noise ratio improves sufficiently that's an acceptable price.

The problem always existed, but nobody amassed a sufficiently large army of trolls to exploit it until now. So it wasn't a priority to solve it before, but now it is. We're going to have to learn to differentiate reports that matter from those that don't. Classifying reports might actually be something you could productively use an LLM for..

Yes, it's a pyramid scheme. There has been no real tech growth products since Web 2.0/mobile. VR/Metaverse? No. Web3? No. AI is another attempt at a manufacturing a synthetic, viral "growth technology" because we've run out of easy, high-value Web 2.0 eyeballs to mine for "engagement". AI blew up way bigger than web3, and arguably is a little bit less useless, but it's basically made of the same stuff. Unless something fantastic and magical happens. But it won't.

Yes, however the companies that are responsible for doing it have already shown their asses a little bit with all the jailbreaking stuff, and we know they produce really awful code from all the recent harness issues... To my mind that indicates this critical invariant deserves a little scrutiny. But with all the vibe slop being slung these days who knows what's safe anymore.

All that is to say I sure would appreciate a coherent, clear technical explanation of how they ensure user data are separate while serving concurrent queries.

Yeah giving up is totally a viable choice, but it isn't the only option.

Assuming the analysis is right, and most (or all) of these AI companies will default on their debts, what consequences might that have?

There's a secret third option: learn. At one point, all of us were "nontechnical", but we learned. The trick is to never stop.

No, but you always have the option to opt out of being a maintainer. If "the community" is going to behave badly and bury you under a barrage of vibeslop you can just leave.

EDIT: there's a version of this that could be positive--everything could get a hell of a lot more secure. But that doesn't seem to be what's happening.

Yeah I don't dispute they have (had?) successful products. Just saying for a company to abandon successful products in favor of a wildly costly gamble is insane. To even arrive at the point where it seems like a "tradeoff" is delusional thinking--like, "we're going to stop supporting this successful product because the future value of this other thing is greater"... what? They've contorted themselves into believing that the future value that product is irrelevant, and all their customers whose trust they're burning are irrelevant, because... chatbots?

Absolutely unhinged behavior. If orcl goes nuts over chatbots and dies that will make this strange and profoundly icky era in tech all worth it.

ayy lmao play stupid games win stupid prizes