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This isn't a chicken and egg scenario though. Snowden couldn't be hurting the US if they didn't take the actions in the first place. It's like blaming victims of police brutality that have come forward for the bad public image of police.

I agree with you aside from your last comment. That wasn't needed. It's great that we have diversity of opinions on here.

>we will remain committed to the defense of the Nation and all that it stands for - security and liberty.

>security and liberty.

Since when did the USA stand for security? Job security? Nope. Home security? Nope. It' supposed to be a free nation, not a secure nation.

My Grandfather grew up in New Brunswick, Canada. His mother and father were servants and he ate lobster every day for lunch during elementary/grade school. He would hold his sandwich so that no-one could see that it was lobster.

They cooked lobster alive back then (1930s), so the cooked dead thing must be region specific.