>security and liberty.
Since when did the USA stand for security? Job security? Nope. Home security? Nope. It' supposed to be a free nation, not a secure nation.
911 was a very nasty wakeup call and to me the government reaction following that just shows how badly shaken the USA was to that.
Who would have thought before 911 that the USA would use torture, or surveillance of US citizens, or assassinate USA citizens - all government approved?
Unless the USA can step away from this precipice I don't think it would be a big stretch to say that the terrorists won and USA lost.