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I’m as tired of slopped up text as the next person but the example OP gave really isn’t that bad

Not getting your life ruined by getting sued by a trillion dollar company sounds like a pretty good motivation

It was a low quality comment but what is the most addictive technology right now? So addictive that even some of my (older) family members basically let it run their entire lives?

>Smoking tobacco is an unpleasant sensation.

I disagree but maybe I’m just addicted.

Obviously “AI”

This is the best one out of all mentioned in this thread by far

Maybe we live in different parts of the country but in bavaria it’s completely fine and common to have a beer at lunch, both blue and white collar workers

Yea it’s definitely not gone in Bavaria. Plenty of people get a nice beer during lunch, construction workers and bankers alike.

Nah it’s just a (small) drink (Bierchen) you’re having with coworkers at the end of the working day (Feierabend). Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a party.

I have the inverse experience in Europe; my former boss would almost force me to drink when we went out for lunch sometimes. There was rarely a meeting with him where I didn’t come home buzzed.

Yea I don’t get all the moping in this thread about alcohol being in decline.

In my country it was wayyy to socially acceptable (almost required) to get blackout drunk every weekend; people fighting; drunk drivers; the amount of alcoholics destroying their life because it’s so accessible.

Don’t get me wrong i enjoy a drink once in a while, even getting drunk sometimes but overall it’s a terrible terrible drug.

Fwiw it has changed now and references the meme as well as this thread

Why are you so afraid of death?

Death is doing a fine job and has so for billions of years.

The only long-term outcome of immortality i can imagine is either Drukhari-style depravity, where you chase more and more fucked up pleasures because anything else you already did 10 million times in the last couple thousands of years - or something like I have no mouth but I must scream - you can live forever but the AI also tortures you forever.

Literally cant think of a positive outcome.

You are right that dynasties exist but that doesn’t mean they are static - the transfer of power of this to the next generation needs to happen.

Every king has its time to rule and then he dies.

Sure an evil dictator is just one person but they can inflict untold billions of suffering.

Just imagine if Hitler (or insert your favourite evil person) would live forever. Do you really think they are going to let go of power or care about anything else but achieving their goals?

We literally feel the ill effects of the previous generation not passing power onto the next (boomers) right now - imagine that was a perpetual state of society forever.

And while we are speaking of “killing” kids - what about the unborn ones? What motivation would people have to procreate if they live forever? Create more people to share more and more limited resources with, I don’t think so.

I think you haven’t quite thought this through; it’s not as easy as “death bad”.

Now I’m not saying we shouldn’t look for cures of diseases and suffering but striving for immortality is not desirable (tbh it will most likely take the form of “we’re gonna upload your consciousness into a computer” anyway, not physical immortality)

Well now we have a natural cap on the amount of power and influence a horrible person can have - if we remove death from the equation there is no cap anymore.

So yea I’m willing to “kill” everyone to prevent the perpetual torment nexus becoming a reality.

No it’s because it would enable the very worst people to live perpetually. Despots and dictators are bad enough but luckily they all die eventually.

Also it cheapens the time you have. Why care about anything if you live forever

“Curing” death would be the most dystopian devastating outcome i can think of

Incidentally this regulation won’t really touch the US providers - at least it sounds like that’s the plan if you listen to current US admin

Going rogue means a person or thing that acts independently, breaks the rules, or behaves in a dishonest, unpredictable way.

I think llms are able to do all that, they don’t require agency as humans beings have to do this

Something that causes harm is harmful; something that causes hurt is hurtful. So something that is harmful or hurtful is violence?

Or what am I missing?

Maybe, I don’t use either - but WhatsApp is a different use case too

Pretty damming quote from Zuckerberg tho:

“Vamos trabalhar com o presidente Trump para pressionar os governos ao redor do mundo que estão perseguindo empresas americanas”, afirmou Mark Zuckerberg.

I genuinely cant remember that - maybe there was a golden age before it went international but I pretty much used to use fb only for consuming political rage bait (luckily i stopped many years ago)

I think you’re not aware how deeply engrained WhatsApp and instagram are in Brasil.

I think dependence is definitely a problem because everyone would get mad at you for having to switch. Sure in the long run it wouldn’t be an issue but immediately you will lose some voters

Brasil pretty much runs on WhatsApp and instagram - they are by faaaaaar the most popular communication platforms. It’s cooked.

You’re inventing a person that thinks COVID censorship was good and this censorship is bad and then you are getting mad at this fictional person (which might just as well exist but no one here made that argument)

Sounds to me like you just want to be mad

Not sure why you are being downvoted; It’s definitely not a trustworthy or neutral source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Derecha_Diario

Don’t want to be the semantics guy but hurtful and harmful behaviour is by definition violence.

Couldn’t you install a cracked windows xp on any kind of machine essentially? Or what is special about “windows xp machines”?

Implying there is some shared belief / morality / value system that unites all of _us_

Is that how it works in the US?

When the police come and want to arrest you for triple manslaughter you just don’t open the door, and they shrug and you can let a third party “negotiate” with them for you?