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API incurs very different usage patterns than humans do, That affects margins and professional plan was made years ago with human use in mind, not programatic access. Paying for only what you use for API is the most fair way to do it.

I owe my entire identity to this little machine. First laid my eyes on it in 1983, then unexpectedly got it from my uncle in 1984. It immediately opened my eyes to this new world of computer technology and sucked me right in.

Between games and writing first code in Basic, something magical was happening. Over the years it defined how I think, and ultimately who I am. Thank you C64 and thanks to everyone who worked on it

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Feels nice to read this, thank you.

I actually do know what it’s like to have bombs falling on my head. I lived in Serbia during the US-led bombing in 1999. I continued using US company products during and afterward, and eventually moved to the United States, while many of my fellow countrymen drew a line similar to yours. I never felt that companies or individuals elsewhere owed me a boycott on my behalf. That experience shaped my reluctance to treat commercial relationships as endorsements of governments or their actions.

I acknowledge everyone draws their own moral line. I respect where you’ve drawn yours, and I ask for the same consideration in return. I don’t think either of us is going to change the other’s mind, so I’ll leave it here. I genuinely appreciate that you care enough about Kagi to have this conversation.

(Kagi founder here)

I respect that you're making a principled choice, even though we see this differently. Kagi uses products and services from companies around the world, including the USA, Europe, and China, but that does not imply endorsement of the actions (past, present, or future) of any of the governments where those companies are based. We'd rather focus on building great software than on things in the world we can't control. Our decisions are guided by the relentless pursuit of the best product quality, user privacy, and our goal of providing a user-centric alternative to dominant tech platforms.

edit: I encourage you (and others in similar dilemma) to watch our origin story to see why are we here and what it is that we stand for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSntB1ip4RE

We'd love to hear from you about specific bugs.

Answer: ads as the main business model running the web since 25 years ago and us accepting the convenience of 'free'.

It turns out everything has a price, and in more recent times we started noticing that our time, attention and intelligence not being insulted also has value.

Enabling 'reader mode' in supporting browsers usually takes care of this.

Mine is still running

> telnet playlom.com 4000

Owe my programming skills to it, and also dropping college, only to start a company later.

Thank you for words of support and love the background picture on your website.

7 years ago we started the 'you are not the product' movement for digital information consumption with Kagi Search. Since then the paradigm shifted from search to agents. Good to see the need for 'you are not the product' still holds up, maybe even more so now: an agent is only worth trusting if it works for you and nobody else. The second an advertiser gets between you and the answer, that's gone. So we're staying on the user-funded side of this. Boring, but it's the whole point.

We'd like to hear more about that - I've been using Orion for the last 6 years and checking Safari every month, cant say Safari ever felt faster than Orion. Must be a specific use case. So if you can be conrete in providing feedback, that would indeed be valuable.

7 years of stubborn development.

Orion syncs history, natively though iCloud sync. Battery consumption should be on par or better than Safari (because Orion has native ad-clocking). If this isn't the case, it is unusual and worth digging deeper into.

Orion already supports it.

It was a design goal since we started working on it in 2019. (because why not?) It is basically a matter of time and devotion - we invested 7 years of development into it and while still not perfect (this is an incredibly messy problem!) a lot of people enjoy running their favorite extensions, even on iOS, which is truly unique to Orion.

I appreciate that you are very particular about UI. Have you considered opening a thread on orionfeedback.org and sharing some of the thoughts/ideas?

And thanks for the support, being completely user-funded is what makes developing Orion fun!

Source?

Flag it please, want to think you were unlocky/page added it after inclusion. It is still a manual effort to verify them, mistakes happen. Definetely not intended.

One of criteria for inclusion into Kagi Small Web [1] is no dickovers. Thanks for naming it properly John.

[1] https://kagi.com/smallweb

Kagi's -> 'fetch it' (dog mascot play)

Not sure what you use for search, but it could be better ;)

http://kagi2pv5bdcxxqla5itjzje2cgdccuwept5ub6patvmvn3qgmgjd6...

(from https://help.kagi.com/kagi/getting-started/accessing-via-tor...)

All 37 factors are equal weighted.

We started saving this data late :)

> The US isn’t what it used to be. It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric.

There is actually a list with metrics https://greatcountry.org (disclaimer: my pet project)

#27th

For the record this is on Google https://imgur.com/a/De1AVpt definetely not #1

Kagi allows personalization, the difference is you as a user control it. If you used kagi for decade (assuming this is what you used Google for) I am sure the results would be fine tuned to your preference too.

We have a big overhaul of Kagi Maps coming, stay tuned :)