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Why has this been downvoted?

The CLR will be open source very soon though.

Also there are restrictions on which pieces can be on which squares (for example: pawns can't move backwards)

You've just described the expression problem.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExpressionProblem

Just use F#

This sounds just like London.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Tiberian Sun nostalgia. Love it.

"Air-cooling" sounds like a gimmick rather than an actual solution (i.e. proper air conditioning).

You see this on adverts for new-build flats in London too. "Comfort cooling" often just means a fan blowing hot air around.

There is a shortage of good developers almost everywhere. If you don't like your job get another one. If you're a good developer you won't have a problem finding one, and your employer will probably learn that you are not easily interchangeable.

Who cares how hard a language is to parse if a parser exists?

He no longer works for Microsoft

Taxi?

I wasn't being hostile at all, or at least that wasn't my intent. I explained why I disagreed with each of the points made.

There's no reason you couldn't implement those things for F#... the compiler, the libraries and the visual tooling is all open source now and accepting contributions. In fact I suspect it would be easier than trying to use Roslyn.

http://neildanson.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/the-roslyn-incide...

This article is ridiculous. F# is used in production in lots of places from startups like Tachyus and SnappyGrid, to mid-sized firms like Trayport all the way to huge corporations like Aviva, Credit Suisse, EDF and Barclays Capital.

IDE Support: Sure, the IDE support might not be quite as developed as C#. But frankly most refactorings are just pressing tab a few times with F#. Refactorings for C#/VB.NET are mostly workarounds for languages that require huge amounts of excess syntax. The IDE support for F# is still way ahead of most of the competition (particularly dynamic languages). The intellisense and error highlighting work fantastically well.

Options/nulls: Yes I suppose you still occasionally have to do a null check if you interface with legacy libraries. but I think having thousands upon thousands of .NET libraries means this is a worthwhile tradeoff. Plus you can use the TryGetX methods in F# far more nicely than in C#. http://luketopia.net/2014/02/05/fsharp-and-output-parameters...

F# missed by Roslyn: F# has had an open source compiler written in F# for years. C# is a ridiculous language to choose to write a compiler in. See http://fsharpforfunandprofit.com/posts/roslyn-vs-fsharp-comp...

What's coming next: F# is so far ahead of C#/VB.NET that this argument is ludicrous. Even if F# remained stagnant it would still always be better than C#. It has sensible defaults: immutability over mutability, functional over OOP, parametric polymorphism over inheritance, lack of nulls over null checks everywhere.

C# has poor defaults that are now irreparable due to the need to keep backwards compatibility.

F# is open to contributions now so I would expect some great things. Joinads, for example... http://tryjoinads.org/

Hiring developers is hard: This is a nonsense statement. Sure, if you want to hire 100 F# developers you might struggle, but you're going to struggle to find 100 good C# developers. Yaron Minsky from Jane Street reports hiring OCaml developers was "the easiest hiring he's ever done". If you tweet that you are looking for F# developers I know from experience that you'll get a lot of responses from very talented developers. Most places I've worked have a terrible time finding decent C# devs - interview:hiring ratio is around 50:1.

Nice work

Is there a way to make this subtract any noise being outputted by the pi's speaker ouput, so that it can still understand me if I'm playing music/watching a movie?

I think unfortunately this is true. But it's a chicken and egg problem. F# won't get more attention unless more people use it.

JVM developers seem to be much more open-minded than .NET developers for whatever reason. As someone who thinks F# is a much nicer language than Scala (the best JVM statically-typed, functional language) it's quite frustrating.

The type inference is much better in F#, the syntax is much terser, discriminated unions are much cleaner than case classes.

Also .NET/Mono benefit from a VM with much better performance characteristics (tail calls, value types).

Scala has its own set of benefits too (incredibly powerful type system, Scalaz, bigger community).

F# is primarily a functional language with some OOP bits tacked on. Scala is the opposite.

Thanks, this is really useful!

It's viable. Mono is very good these days. It's pretty rare that you find .NET libraries that are incompatible. I still use Visual Studio as an IDE but deploying to Linux is straightforward.

Your options are (realistically): Websharper - full web stack, transparent RPC. Hard to interop with native JS libraries like angular though.

Funscript - F# to JS compiler, more minimalist approach.

F# server side (REST api in Nancy/Fanciful/WebAPI) teamed with javascript front-end. Also well worth checking out Livescript, syntax is very similar to F# but dynamically typed.

See also: A relevant blog article I posted: http://thecodedecanter.wordpress.com/2013/06/22/hosting-webs...

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Would you be willing to pay in bitcoins, though?

It's really not.

It sounds like you're a fan of statically typed languages. Maybe try WebSharper (F#), Play/Lift (Scala).

Does this use the Json Schema spec or have you reinvented the wheel?

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You mean apart from discriminated unions, pattern matching, computation expressions, units of measure, partial function application, immutability by default and general lack of null reference exceptions?

See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

Not sure why this is being downvoted. The fact that people keep creating template languages like this doesn't mean they're an elegant solution.