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dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
I'm trying to follow you. Are you saying that different UIs should (or may) have different data models, which themselves are different from but still derived from and related to the persisted data model?
dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
> That's funny, I just googled it now and it does seem to have support for them, at least a page that says so

That documentation page says that you can use serverless functions with Hasura, which is true. Hasura custom events call a web-hook, which can be and often is implemented with a serverless function, thought it need not be.

> I also don't mean that Hasura should have serverless functions itself, like AWS Lambda

Thank you for clarifying.

> your comments themselves for 3 and 4 are copy pasted in content

No. I typed out comments 3 and 4 independently "long hand." No copy/paste was involved, save for copying the URLs over.

As for the rest...let's just score that as "a difference of opinion" and call it a day, shall we?

dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
> If you work for a certain company and you recommend it, you should disclose that you work for said company.

I see no good reason to accept that proposition. Moreover, I'm not recommending Hasura in this thread (see below). That would be odd, given that I have also said good things about competing products (Potgraphile and Supabase).

> Your comments are also near copy-pastes of each other

I made 4 comments originally:

1. rejecting the claim that Apollo is "_the_" GraphQL company: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34007957

2. rejecting the claim that Apollo client is the only one to use: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34008121

3. answering the question of what to use on the backend besides Apollo: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34018101

4. rejecting the claim that Apollo can't "be beat" on the backend: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34018095

Numbers 3 and 4 are similar but not the same, given their contexts.

For the record, Hasura has never had serverless functions. It never had them before and it still doesn't have them now. We view that as a product decision, but you're free to view it however you like. As for your other reasons for not wanting to use Hasura, you're free to have them just as others are free to reject them. My objective has never been to persuade people to use Hasura. Use whatever you want. My objective was counter claims that I believe are untrue.

dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
Yes. I do work at Hasura. Why is that relevant?

No. I have not been spamming the same comment. I have made several related comments, which I'm free to do just as anyone else is.

Now, YOU'RE free not to use Hasura Cloud (a fine cloud-managed product by a company I work for) or Supabase (a fine cloud-managed product by a company I don't work for). You're also free to use Hasura CE (a self-hosted OSS Docker image), Supabase (another self-hosted OSS Docker image), or Postgraphile (another self-hosted OSS Docker image) if you don't want Hasura or Supabase to host your application. You're even free to believe these tools work only for simple situations but break down for more complicated ones. The thing is, other people are equally free to make other judgments.

dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
Can you give reasons for why you believe that?
dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
https://supabase.com/blog/pg-graphql

https://www.graphile.org/postgraphile/

https://hasura.io/

dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
Rubbish. For the backend, Apollo Server absolutely can be beat by tools that don't require you to write any code:

https://supabase.com/blog/pg-graphql

https://www.graphile.org/postgraphile/

https://hasura.io/

dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
Rubbish

https://graphql.org/code/#javascript

dventimihasura··on Apollo Layoffs
Apollo is not _the_ GraphQL company, nor is it synonymous with GraphQL. Nobody is those things.
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