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I couldn't get my friends use Signal, it's not there yet in terms of user friendliness (hell, I wouldn't use it). But Telegram works for me, and I consider it a substantial improvement over Whatsapp. YMMV.
Also, we are discussing web login options here which afaik Signal doesn't support.
Chat archives are stored encrypted, not in plain text. Please cite your sources if you claim otherwise.
Also, stories about FISA overreach, PRISM, the rest of the alphabet soup plus gag orders do not particularly inspire confidence.
It might be a personal choice, but for stuff when privacy is really important I'd definitely pick Telegram over Apple, no matter how much the latter claims to keep me safe from three-letter agencies as well as marketers.
Not unless you are willing to avadakedavra them all, and this avenue is also wide open for abuse, as you may imagine
It's all not doom and gloom, but what society desperately needs is to stop producing/consuming pointless articles such as this one or idiocy like "We should break up Google and Amazon" [Oh yeah? Go ahead and break them up them, I'll watch. Will you be selling tickets?], and to start performing _real_ economic and game-theoretic analysis of possible alternatives.
Edit: ok I launched Signal which was installed on my phone since forever but never saw any active use, and I must say I remember it to be much worse than it actually is. Either it's seen a lot of improvement, or my initial experience frustrated me away.
Still, this doesn't invalidate my question as of which other features are missing from TG secret chats; being an active Telegram user I can't put my finger on any.
Where do you get this from? IIRC their plan is to launch a Internet platform TON and a cryptocurrency Gram, and make money off transactions. As far as monetization plans go, this one is a very long shot, risky and brilliant IMO.
My love for the word "dubious" cannot be overstated. While there's been a lot of solidly-seeming (I am not a security researcher) criticism of TG security infrastructure, I don't recall a single instance of chats or metadata being actually compromised so far.
> Signal has a far superior user experience.
Not in this Universe, unfortunately. Signal is borderline unusable, and if I have the choice of pushing Signal vs pushing Telegram, I'll choose the latter - simply because it provides a much much better experience and will be able to retain the audience to a better degree, while people who install Signal will probably go back to Whatsapp/Messenger.
> When you are using private messaging, numerous other features are disabled defeating the point
Such as? The only feature that comes to mind is the absence of sync to other devices (which is kinda expected). Basically all one-on-one chat features are retained in Telegram's secret chats, and keep in mind that Signal doesn't offer these features to begin with.
No. Not at all. You can expect particle density to be anywhere from 5cm^-3 to 80cm^-3 if you stay within 1 astronomical unit distance from the Sun. Besides, all that plasma is accompanied by frozen-in magnetic field, plus you have energetic particle events, recurrent fast solar wind emerging from coronal holes and plethora of other effects and structures which are terribly interesting to study but which will ruin your high energy physics experiment even if you somehow acquire god-like powers and build a huge non-contiguous accelerator.
Wouldn't be the first time, either: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-shuts-down-gaia-efforts...
TL;DR: They shut down an open source GEarth clone called Gaia a decade ago, although they managed to not to lose a lot of karma over that due to graceful handling.
Why not? It all depends on the qualification of the people writing blog posts and comments. Remember that some 300 years ago a lot of scientific results existed in epistolary form only, and that first journals that looked like today's thing (like the Bulletin of the Royal Society) were basically compilations of letters sent by astronomers, naturalists etc and reactions of their peers sent as follow-up letters.
Naturally, this doesn't mean that anybody and their dog should have a voice in discussing matters like cosmology if they actually have no clue about it.
As for SpaceX: everybody has accidents, and they'll have their share, too. Space is hard. Still, since everyone has been saying that SpaceX is going to fail, and that they won't be able to pull off the next important step, and every time they did it afterwards, it sounds like the story about the boy who cried wolf now.
And yet I have no kind words for Tesla's fully self-driving project. I fully agree with you here.
> I think judgment matters. If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines -- including Google -- do retain this information for some time and it's important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act and it is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities.
Kinda changes the whole context from "secrets are for bad people" to "you shouldn't use Google with anything really secret, because government".
I'm really dismayed that a lot of good people and orgs keep misrepresenting this quote for many years by cutting it out of the context. This doesn't mean that Google is automatically your friend, btw.