douglasisshiny

>If bend2 does not use what right to exist does HVM still have?

What? This is such a weird comment.

I felt the same way with fp-ts then effect in typescript. Pretty cool libraries and I learned a lot about FP while trying them out for a couple of years, but a lot of ceremony and noise due to them (especially effect) almost being a new language on top of typescript.

Recently got the opportunity to try out elixir at my job and I'm liking it thus far, although it is an adjustment. That static typing and type inference are being added to the language right now is helpful.

>No I'm not, I'm just sick of these edgy takes where AI does not improve productivity when it obviously does.

Feel free to cite said data you've seen supporting this argument.

I was thinking about this as an approach for a side project to build in order to (speed up) learn elixir/phoenix for work. While the old-school forums dedicated to specific topics work (why re-invent them?) I was thinking of a "tribal" social network.

You as a person decide you want to create a space with a combination of reddit-like features, maybe video, etc. Only people you invite can discover it (or you can allow them to invite people) It could work for neighborhood groups (similar to nextdoor but with a limited crowd that you like/trust), school groups, family, or specific interests -- although specific interests are the idea's weakest selling point since it lacks easy discoverability.

Yeah, there are forums, discord, etc. etc., but I thought it could potentially be interesting. And yeah, people would abuse it (i.e., share pirated and illegal content), so maybe not really viable.

Meh, I used to have that feeling, especially when discovering fp-ts and then effect (neither of which I've been paid to write), but after about four years, I'm tired of writing it period. The standard library for node is horrible; the ecosystem is okay but not great. And I don't even care for effect anymore. I also write go in my job and it's just okay, but the standard library is much better.

I've been playing around with rust in my free time and like it. I think it's a good FP middle ground. Gleam also looks interesting. But to your point I imagine there aren't many jobs paying for rust and practically none for Gleam.

Okay, how am I supposed to use them "correctly"? Because me explaining step by step, more so than a junior developer, how to do a small task in an existing codebase for it to get it wrong not once, not twice, not three times, but more is not a productivity boost.

And here's the difference between someone like me and an LLM: I can learn and retain information. If you don't understand this, you don't have a correct understanding of LLMs.

Do you have actual data showing cursor (or any LLM) is a massive productivity benefit for coding? What are the heuristics?

Is it not a bit weird to freely give give away your entire code base (I assume it's personal, not your company's, but maybe I'm wrong) to an entity like Google?

This whole thread has to be satire.

Have something else write code for you to be a better programmer? Yeah.... no, that's not how it works

It's been refreshing to read these perspectives as a person who has given up on using LLMs. I think there's a lot of delusion going on right now. I can't tell you how many times I've read that LLMs are huge productivity boosters (specifically for developers) without a shred of data/evidence.

On the contrary, I started to rely on them despite them constantly providing incorrect, incoherent answers. Perhaps they can spit out a basic react app from scratch, but I'm working on large code bases, not TODO apps. And the thing is, for the year+ I used them, I got worse as a developer. Using them hampered me learning another language I needed for my job (my fault; but I relied on LLMs vs. reading docs and experimenting myself, which I assume a lot of people do, even experienced devs).

Or someone who has been a developer for a decade plus trying to use these models on actual existing code bases, solving specific problems. In my experience, they waste time and money.

To be more clear, it's operatives of the Heritage Foundation who now work in the government putting this into place. Does anyone think Trump actually does much day to day? He often seems completely unaware of what's going on in his own government. I invite anyway to watch his evening press conferences where he's handed a bunch of Executive Orders, is told what he's signing (he has no clue), and signs it.

I think the point is you could just.... write the code yourself.

I've had the same experience as the person to whom you're responding. After reading your post, I have to ask: if you're putting so much effort into prompting it with specific points, correcting it often, etc., why not just write the code yourself? It sounds like you're putting a good deal of effort into prompting it.

Aren't you worried that overtime you'll rely on it too much and your offhand knowledge will get worse?

I'm in the same boat. I've largely stopped using these tools other than asking questions about a language that I'm less familiar with or a complex type in typescript for which it can be helpful (sometimes). Otherwise, I felt like I was just wasting my time and becoming lazier/worse as a developer. I do wonder whether LLMs have hit a wall and we're in a hype cycle.

I'm not sure if you've been reading the news at all, but I would guess no? The most talked about has been USAID -- namely because they started with it, which is odd because it's one of the smallest government programs and Musk promised to cut $2 trillion -- wait, sorry $1 trillion -- wait, no, $150 Billion by 2026 -- wait, the actual amount is likely much smaller [1].

1. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/us/politics/doge-contract...

They're stopping congressionally mandated (i.e. legislation) payments to services, violating the Impoundment Control Act of 1974.

It was insanely effective: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PRMFGCON. Notice the sharp dip at the end there.

I can't speak to that (I'm about a decade in). I have read some things, but they're anecdotes and the majority of people who find a decent job out of college probably aren't going online to talk about it on reddit (compared to people who cannot find a job). The best data I can find quickly is from the NY Fed showing the unemployment rate for new college grads (aged 22-27) is 5.3 as of late last year: https://www.newyorkfed.org/research/college-labor-market#--:...

I might suggest a third option, which I pursued. Found a job at a public university system in my pre software development role. Received tuition remission and worked full-time while also going to school part time (online) -- my job would cover six credits a semester. And since I already had a bachelors, I was able to get a bachelors in computer science with 42 or 45 credits, and graduate in about 2.5 years (including summer courses).

I've played around with sst v2 and now v3/ion for side projects and like it a lot.

Is there a timeline/roadmap for supporting the languages noted on the bottom of the post?

I've heard this and haven't really experienced it with Go, typescript, elixir yet. I don't doubt the claim, but I wonder if I'm not prompting it correctly or something.

Why are you dubious about the future of EVs?

Isn't that just inflation?

Not a fan of the class-based approach.

I'm more interested in a language like gleam, but the BEAM VM does sound appealing. But one thing I have been wondering is what is the hosting story like for BEAM languages?

Is there easy tooling for deploying to something like AWS ECS and having nodes communicate with each other?

Its suggesting that a inverted yield curve alone is as good as a coin toss as far as leading indicators go.

It's the percentage of people aged 25-54 (prime age) who are either employed or unemployed and looking for work. It's considered a good indicator of the health of the labor market.