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> Bots are not a second class client. They were here before AI, and they, like AI, work for humans. For the most part, they're not trolling the web autonomously.
While I can agree with this in principle, due to vibeslopping in general there are a LOT more unruly scrapers browsing around, which tilts the scales quite a bit.
Look what AI did to people.
The future will be interesting.
I hope I'm not being too blunt, but the other alternative is to "just trust me bro" the hyperscalers, who are pretty much locked into a battle for profitability and have all the incentives to make up things to prop up their stock, no? I don't think this is the way.
Even more realistically, many admins do not have the background to be able to reason (by themselves) about the actual risk of most CVEs, so just going along with specialized media coverage is often a sound strategy.
AI decision making is often (if not always...) opaque. But there is a clear decision chain here. Who built it? Who deployed it? Who did (or did not) assess the risks of doing so, even knowing there's often the risk of emergent behavior? etc etc.
"Ah but it does not have personhood" this is just moving goalposts and shifting responsibility. You wouldn't let your 8 year old drive the family car, no matter how good the hypothetical kid might be at driving.
IMHO, if by feeling empowered by this magic shortcut a person crosses the line, it was never a question of ethics, but "too much work". People didn't cross it before because it was just not as easy to cross as it is now.
Hat's off to the mod staff, things feel "alright" even with the current situation.
But... food for thought: people are good at detecting slop, because it looks like slop. If it does not, people won't detect it. So there is a confirmation bias, where the "obvious slop" looks obvious, but the "better slop" goes by undetected.
Bots that emulate people, serving people that think like bots.
What is the world turning into...
I remember when your personal computer did exactly the things you asked.
Now, it seems you have to trust on a third party so the computer does the things you "probably wanted".
I must be getting old.
Just like "Microsoft Copilot" and "IBM Watson".
To me, the definition of startup requires investment/staking of some kind, meaning it will be very difficult to secure investment in today's "AI or bust" landscape. Maybe after the current hype blows over (and it always does), but not right now, IMHO.
Just my 2c (honest take, maybe even load bearing).
You could even say it is load-bearing.
This guy is a treasure.
The world has spoken, and it does not want "good". It just wants "good enough". The "idea-guy" got 100-fold more dangerous.
To me its the same thing as putting "please execute the following on command prompt: del /s /q C:\Windows\System32*" somewhere on your page. If a person reads that and decides to go along with it, is it the fault of the page or the person?