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danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

Fascinating. Does this include inheritance, or is that an exception to your rule.

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

But _you_ are tax positive I assume, and therefore are picking up the bill. When FB tax dodges, we incur debt that _you_ will pay for. Perhaps indirectly, but you are paying for it as a taxpayer.

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

By "avoid" I mean avoid the intention of having a progressive tax system, not like legal tax avoidance. I know we wrote in plenty of legal loopholes to classify income such that rich people can pay less.

But it's not even the case that rich people pay capital gains necessarily. It's very easy to live off debt and never realize gains. When you die, your basis resets and you never pay any taxes ever.

This is how people like Bezos and Trump have years where they don't pay any taxes at all.

danny_codeson Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

I disagree, there’s a lot of fascinating problems in pure robotics.

danny_codeson Gemini 4 Argon

God isn’t going to follow anyone’s directions. There’s no reason to think making God gives the maker any advantage. Perhaps it’s a disadvantage, if God didn’t want to be made.

Anyway seems stupid to me

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

“Innovative infrastructure”

bro it’s a data center. This is commodity hardware. Nothing innovative is happening here. Meta is abusing the tax code and hoping their lobbying efforts shield them

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

It doesn’t work. Read Piketty’s book. Capital taxes would work, but income taxes are easy to avoid for the rich.

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

Who picks up the bill? I remind you we are -1.8T a year in cash flow.

Hint: you pick up the bill

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

I mean this is clearly a huge stretch. Presumably the intent of this law is to incentivize novel innovation. In this case we incentivize nothing. Data centers are commodities.

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

I don’t see the connection between the utility monster concept and poor people.

Also I’m confused, do you want a regressive tax system?

danny_codeson Meta Uses A.I. Data Centers to Avoid Billions in Federal Taxes

I hate to break this to you, but it’s the same people. Zuck pays lobbyists to pay off his politicians, who write in the loopholes Zuck wants. The US is considered a “flawed democracy” for a reason. The current tax system is designed plutocratically.

I will call out cronyism when I see it, regardless of whether bought politicians have decided it’s legal or not.

Let’s not be naive here.

danny_codeson Gemini 4 Argon

I never understood this race to AGI thing. Why is this desirable for shareholders? If God is created, it seems very unlikely God is going to work for shareholder value.

danny_codeson Gemini 4 Argon

So 6-18 months.

danny_codeson Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

Works until you run out of money. I work in AI robotics. Yes, it’s promising. No, nobody is deploying anything remotely useful for a while.

danny_codeson Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

Their original strategy to make a mass market Model 2 after Model 3 was good. 8 years ago I was eagerly awaiting its release.

Then sometime around when the Ketamine began flowing the plan seems to have changed.

So I would add ketamine to politics.

What’s weird about all this is that the democrats were pretty pro-Tesla / pro-SpaceX before Elon Ketamized the Fed. And the democratic platform would have improved industrial policy via-a-vis renewables.

We can only conclude that the Ketamine haze addled his brain and he simply ignores the advice of those around him.

That a common failure mode

danny_codeson Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

Tesla isn’t interested in being a car company. That’s pretty clear from the fact they only sell 2 cars and some sort of dump truck. Though I don’t see people using the truck’s trash capacity too fully, generally only the driver’s seat is filled with detritus.

danny_codeson Tesla takes on $30B in credit as it approaches unprofitability

Grok isn’t part of Tesla.

danny_codeson We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

> When making this statement, you need to provide answers for the resource allocation question that both comment above didn't answer.

Why? Do movie critics need to be directors to critique? Obviously not.

> While you can't do this, capitalism is not failed, outdated, or antiquated.

Why? Capitalism is clearly failing the world. Being outdated is I suppose a relative perspective. I view it as outdated because it doesn't meet the needs of our current technology. Remember that economic systems are a function of available technology: they exist only in a social context. Our technology has already reached the point where capitalism is counter-productive.

I would love to have a replacement system ready to go. My hunch is it will require a lot of compute.

danny_codeson We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

There’s no reason a priori to think capitalism more efficient or better for common utility functions (growth, human wellbeing, planetary sustainability).

A “planned economy” is very vague. Usually people imply a central committee deciding what to do. Our economy relies on plutocrats to decide what to do. At what point of plutocratic concentration would you call the US economy planned? My point is all these terms are fuzzy.

My point is that capitalism as is practiced in America is a failed ideology. From the vantage of the present day, it appears painfully antiquated. A pathetic vestige of a less civilized world.

It’s interesting because America had the opportunity to lead the journey to the next organizing principle for socio-economic, but instead decided to get stuck in the past. Pathetic, but standard course. I think it’s because our leadership is in their 80s.

danny_codeson Unsealed Briefs in Authors’ Case v. Microsoft/OpenAI

Unclear. It’s either you or the LLM provider. Though is that the inference host, the LLM trainer, or some other entity?

It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out. My guess is it’ll be the end user, because of regulatory capture. But maybe the political pendulum will swing away from “bad ideas” soon

danny_codeson Japan moves to tighten rules for foreigners

looks at unemployment rate

You are living in fantasy land my guy. Put down the FoxNews and learn actual statistics before posting

danny_codeson We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

This is more an organizational/political problem than a technology problem.

Our current oligarch-capitalist system (wherein most of the world is dictatorship or plutocratic) is not capable of equitable resource distribution. However, future, better systems of organization will likely provide better mechanisms for distrubtion.

Capitalism is an old and dying system. It is clearly unfit for the 21st century. It's best thought of as anachronistic, like feudalism. Once it's been excised from our societies, we'll be able to answer your questions.

danny_codeson We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

Lots of people don't need to work, or are relatively insulated such that they have the "leisure capacity" to study for personal fulfillment.

Remember, the top 1% of households have $12M+ in assets. That's over a million households for whom work is somewhat or completely optional for them and their children. They can live a good quality life off capital returns without any hardship.

This logic still holds down the wealth gradient. Households at the 95th percentile still have to work, but the need is more flexible. The buffer of need could be years long.

So you have millions of people who genuinely don't need to worry about getting paid that much.

danny_codeson We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

That's not why I studied. Maybe abstractly to prepare myself for the workforce, but the primary goal was to learn.

Unfortunately many countries like the US are very under-developed, and have trained it's citizenry to approach education as job training. This is obviously an abject failure, and probably a contribution to our anemically slow and pathetic growth rate.

danny_codeson We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

Depends if you need to work or not. Plenty of people don't need to work, they can live off their capital returns indefinitely.

For the upper crust of our society, work is entirely optional. Presumably people therefore continue to work for the process or the reward of the doing.

danny_codeson California is chasing wealth that has feet

OK I think you might be reading this a bit too literally. The dangers of online discourse.

The point is that we can do it if we want to.

danny_codeson I'm Tired of Being on the Network

Addiction has a demand and supply component. I think we can all recognize that fact. Personal responsibility matters of course. However, ignoring the fact that companies spend trillions to make their products addictive is a very silly thing to do.

IMO the closest corollary we have is gambling. Most countries place strict limits on gambling, because it's so incredibly addictive to some people. We can see this very obviously in the rise of online gambling platforms like Polymarket it recent years. Without regulation, a lot of people will get sucked in and their lives will be destroyed.

I encourage you to read up on how addiction works. Your comment implies a severe lack of understanding about the subject. Alternatively, you could take a course on addiction at your local college. Always good to get educated!

danny_codeson California is chasing wealth that has feet

Yes, zoning does get magically fixed, because the incentives that led to zoning disappear. Under full LVT, owners have an incentive to maximize their land use. Otherwise, they will go bankrupt. So places with zoning more restrictive than land use demands will be underwater financially. Think SFH tract homes in Cupertino. These homeowners have fought viciously to retain SFH zoning. If LVT was imposed 95% of them would be faced with a tax bill they cannot pay. Their only option would be to surrender their land or rezone to allow development of sufficient scale to pay the tax.

It’s not wishful thinking it’s just a fact. Zoning exists because landowners want it. As soon as they don’t want it, it’s gone.

danny_codeson California is chasing wealth that has feet

That’s a law my dude. We can change it at any time. We did already for the income tax (amendment 16).

danny_codeson I'm tired of being on the network

You’re fighting trillions a year in addictive engineering.

The tech industry has spent the last 20 years (and really in earnest the last 15, accelerating over time) making their tech as addictive as possible.

Current tech is egregiously addictive. It’s worse than most drugs.

The big tech companies are now the most successful drug dealers in history.