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Travel is another reason. I use my bluetooth noise cancelling Sony headphones but being able to just plug in with zero battery use feels like magic.

13 hour flight, airports, etc... fewer dongles, fewer things to charge, etc.

You keep drawing me back in because you state the issue, but don't seem to see it as an issue - you're not seeing the forest but the trees are obvious.

It's not about the workarounds, those are symptoms and some of the reasons this is a thing in the first place.

The face that sentiment around Facebook is generally negative but most still use it is testiment to the monopolistic powers these discussions are all about. Could people migrate to Twitter or some other social network? Sure, maybe. Are they? No. Why? Everyone thought Facebook was a blip in a string of Friendster, MySpace, etc -- but boy they've had staying power despite the low switching cost we thought we had on the early internet. How is that not worth exploring to the fullest?

We don't actually know if these issues affect most people. What would Amazon be like without their Amazon products crushing their third party partners? What would Facebook be like without WhatsApp and Instagram? What would Apple be like if you could plug your weather app of choice in vs their acquisition and likely destruction of all current iOS weather apps? Will Apple nail the DarkSky integration and make a top notch user experience? Almost certainly -- that's not in question.

All of that has a ripple effect through the economy and right now there's purely discovery happening and I still haven't heard one good reason why this discovery process isn't worthwhile, outside of its lack of effectiveness, from the very people who seem to be against any kind of change.

More lowest common denominator talk despite these issues being economic which was ranked as the #2 issue in the source you presented.

The three options you present are a completely different level of granularity, I'm not clear why you're ranking them. No one is a single issue voter down to Apple's 30% cut, that's just a piece being discussed to better understand the larger issue (or lack thereof, if that's your point of view).

But everyone does NOT know how much data they hand over and how that's used to stifle competition, innovation, and has attributable impact to many of the other items you list - and that's what's being vetted right now. No one has issue with high revenue, that's the reward for winning. We're discussing HOW you win, and if that needs modification.

Most people I know are more than capable to read, learn, and form educated opinions on everything on your list as well as this topic.

We might be at a stalemate here since you won't be convincing me the discovery process into these issues isn't worth it, and I'm not sure I can convince you to not judge an entire nation by its lowest common denominator, be it extreme left or extreme right, which is what I'm drawing from your previous comment.

I don't care who's barking about what and if they're consistent about it. Either there is or is not an underlying risk we should aim to minimize.

As far as what I might want to see, since you asked: for one, I would like to see more rigor around the acquisition process to eliminate or even undo some of the consolidation. I won't pretend to understand the details of how or what needs to change, but I am more than open to taking a hard look at things like WhatsApp and Instagram being acquired by Facebook and what kinds of power centralization that enables. I hope smarter people than me will do that research and make intelligible cases so we can all hold evidence-backed positions.

Look at the valuation, never mind the societal impact, of these companies -- data is worth far more than your average consumer realizes, at least once it hits an inflection point, and our laws don't currently reflect that. Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't. I welcome the discovery, and don't feel like we need to be anywhere near a solution yet.

I said "voters are discussing" and you said "representatives are idiots". I'm not sure you're hearing my POV. Stupid questions and ineffective historical decisions or not, are you suggesting we just throw in the towel based on a snapshot of our government? Can we not vote in better representation once the population tears into these issues and better understand the outcomes we want?

It's not "more power over tech," it's the job of government. Distribution of power, promoting competition, tweaking the rules as little as is deemed necessary.

Is it really so outrageous to consider there might be a consolidation of power in a way we haven't dealt with before, seeing Amazon crush partners overnight, or Facebook impacting elections?

The very same HN that longs for the early internet, with web rings and personality, doesn't have a problem with Google scrapping content from pages you would have otherwise visited, further limiting smaller website's revenue opportunity?

For those of you not seeing clear anticompetitive behaviors that warrant discovery -- where is your line?

Yes, very productive things have come out of the dog and pony show: tons of conversation and debate amongst voters as people familiarize themselves with the nuance of these topics.

Do I trust the politicians? Maybe not the ones you're describing but read through Elizabeth Warren's proposal around platform utilities:

https://medium.com/@teamwarren/heres-how-we-can-break-up-big...

Maybe you agree, maybe you don't - the point is that it's clearly a well-articulated position. Not all US politicians are idiots, but the loudest ones certainly make it seem that way.

Yes, that's exactly the goal. Antitrust laws need to be updated for today's technology and businesses.

How much of that falls to user experience though? We're not constrained by physical media, but aren't we by Spotify design?

I almost exclusively browse my library by album, but Spotify generally pushes me towards tracks. The release radar, for example, offers no way to filter to full album releases.

I hope artists aren't pressured into releasing tracks one off purely due to design decisions vs artistic choice. Software can easily cater to both.

In case anyone hasn't read Warren's policy recommendations, it's worth the read to get a sense of possible steps beyond questions on CSPAN:

https://medium.com/@teamwarren/heres-how-we-can-break-up-big...

The real change is that voters that might not be as familiar with these issues see that the issues are enough to warrant this kind of discovery, and tune in.

Then, when people like Warren draft policy to, for example, introduce the concept of platform businesses so, for example, Amazon can't directly compete on the platform they own the data from, it won't fall on deaf ears.

Coda.io has or had a pretty tight connection with GSuite. Might not be prescriptive enough if you want enforced structure but it's a great app.

And I'd rather see more search results that aren't tuned to me. Down with algorithms! Down with personalization!

I'm surprised how much hate there is on HN - the entire future of technology feels like it's heavy on data, personalization, and prediction, but a lot of comments read like a parent or grandparent that was targeted and is loading up their shotgun.

The technology isn't the enemy, some of the use is. And in some cases, we need legislation to catch up, like it gas started to for things like loot boxes / gambling in kid's games.

It's against Google's terms of service to collect personally identifiable information so it's anonymized there, too. It's the same -- you can collect data server side via the measurement protocol via the same hit parameters. Either way, you can be responsible about measurement.

I thought this wasn't talked about because we all understand the limitations, accept them, and still find value. This sounds like a maturity thing, not a tool thing.

Lots of user experience professionals find utility in data that serves discovery and design sprints. Lots of product management professionals find utility in data that serves validating incremental feature engagement.

If these numbers were significantly changed by a server side page view, I'd bet their page view wasn't firing any earlier than the top or bottom of the body tag, or maybe even on window ready. Anyone that's spent any real time outside of dropping in a snippet understands the implications of users navigating before hits fire, and it sounds like the team just didn't have that experience.

Like you, I also work to make sure people understand that client side data is not necessarily accurate, but still refer to it as metrics and KPIs, just with the caviot that we should bank on consistancy over accuracy, keeping our analysis geared towards behavior and trends versus most business people's immediate desire to take it to an operational/business intelligence type place.

Not sure what you mean by "from GA" given that the tool collects what you tell it to collect. The data is only garbage if you don't have or hire the skillset to use it, and when you do you'll have proper leading indicators for your business metrics and quantitative prioritization support.

Are you willing to share more about what you're working on? It sounds interesting.

One language app I tried for a few minutes was a VR app that put you, for example, on a train, and you had to have a relevant conversation. It was cool, not sure how effective because the GearVR I used at the time made me sick too quickly.

It's definitely light but improving every month, not unlike any new system. I do hope the trend continues -- as a Switch owner that isn't a heavy gamer, I appreciate it as a supplement since I'm not going to buy another system for a few games the Switch can't handle.

Right now I do think it's clear that the rave reviews are coming from casual gamers.

Stadia has been perfect for me, zero complaints. The subscription is well worth having a library of games to explore (or replay, in the case of Superhot).

I'm a new dad, so jumping in and out of games is important. Sadia makes that easy, unlike the huge updates on my Switch (nevermind the filled SD card). I also love that I can move room to room without needing additional docks - just a multi purpose chromecast.

There is so much fear/noise in this thread about Google shutting it down, and I gotta say, I'm just not worried about that. If it happens, so be it, I'll have gotten plenty of value out of the platform. Are you not going to see a movie in a movie theater because you don't own it after and the theater might go out of business someday? Are you all still buying Blu-ray? Everything dies, live a little, go stream Doom Eternal.

You can still try it, if you'd like to.

I like this. On desktop the "move here" could be on hover, maybe, to prevent so many added elements.

It kind of reminds me of spreadsheet functionality in terms of inserting x rows above or below.

It's worth noting that Chase, which I believe is helping with the IPO, gave all Sapphire Reserve card holders a perk that effectively gave you 2-3 free DoorDash orders, bumping up their unique users just in time for an IPO. Feels unethical to me.

If I had to guess, it might not take two full weeks, they're just releasing it as part of a normal sprint cycle, not as a hotfix.

These stand alone products get killed but I would be interested in seeing a similar summary by feature. It's always seemed like a strategy to me that they build and release an MVP, early adopters explore it, love or hate it, and the best of what's killed winds up integrating into the core suite.

For example, I miss Google Latitude but location sharing is a feature of Google Maps now. I never used Inbox but I assume some of the new Gmail features are from what they learned there.

Can confirm. Found my Boxee a couple months ago and Netflix worked. I honestly couldn't believe it.

You're describing Brave.

Brave is doing exactly this with BAT on Ethereum but automating the whole thing. You can donate to any website, but you'll also auto-contribute if you choose to have that enabled.

If you're looking for a record on something new you'll never see anything new.