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Another reason for having a designed website instead of just a Substack is marketing. When I visit a site and see that it’s a Substack I don’t want to stay and explore. It feels generic and that hurts the writing. Making a custom site isn’t much trouble, especially these days so defaulting to Substack feels a little unconsidered

Is this not considered an advertisement?

Whose “human web” is this? The collection seems to lean heavily toward the mainstream, commercial, silicon valley web. It leaves out much of the strange, personal, experimental web. Where are the works of artists like Olia Lialina?

For a more representative museum of the human web see: https://art.teleportacia.org/

Hey, that's a really great idea. On it.

Lots of HTML Energy here!

Sure! You don't really need to join the discord (it's just extra like JavaScript).

We will be writing at 2-3PM EST so you can just join us telepathically and if you feel like sharing what you created leave it in a comment here or email us a link [1]. We would love to see!

[1] htmlenergy@gmail.com

Thanks for that suggestion. We haven't used Jitsi but will look into it.

Hope to see you at the freewrite.

Yes! That "direct conversation between you and the browser" is what we are calling HTML energy.

> The age of the personal webpage is over and I think that vision of the web is mostly dead, but I'm happy to see people keeping the energy alive.

Our hope is that a movement (web0 or whatever you want to call it) could bring this back.

Sure! We understand that JavaScript and frameworks are nice to have but it feels like everyone depends on them too much these days.

It would be pretty cool if someone that has never made a website before, learned a little HTML, wrote an index.html, and published it on the www. Maybe that person never learns CSS, JS, or any framework and that's totally fine. We think that the simplicity and directness of HTML is what makes it powerful.

very true!

That's a great suggestion. Maybe we will create a Mastodon for the next one.

Hi HN,

Looking forward to writing HTML together tomorrow at 2PM EST. You can join our discord to share your writing/websites [1] during the freewrite.

Also we just wanted to share a little more about HTML Energy. It’s still coming together but here are some of our big dreams…

- Create a #web0 movement: We would love to see a new movement around web0 (coding HTML by hand, personal websites, webrings, etc). Basically anything that brings websites instead of platforms into the spotlight again. We are actually pretty inspired by all the energy that is going into web3 right now. What if that same energy and capital was going into web0? What could we create together?

- Rebrand HTML [2]: Some people think that HTML is outdated or hard to use. We think it’s actually pretty straightforward and really powerful stuff. Stripping away all the paint (CSS/JS) really makes the content the focus and there's a raw sincerity to an unstyled page. Our goal is just to get people excited about learning & writing HTML and this is our attempt at making it "cool."

- Getting HTML into schools: What if more people knew how to self host/publish? Would we depend on big platforms less? Would people begin making more small community websites to chat with their friends?

- Create another season of our podcast [3]. Last season we talked with so many incredible people that are trying to make the web a better place. Let us know if you listened and would want another season.

Hope to see you tomorrow and have a great night!

<p>'s on earth!

[1] https://discord.gg/SsPKzA8N?event=931711702578384947

[2] https://twitter.com/htmlenergy

[3] https://html.energy/podcast.html

To all those web0/HTML heads out there. Here's a song for you: https://html.energy/pages/imagine/

Happy New Year!

brb

good call. thank you

yes, did you feel the energy?

Here's my old website: https://archive.elliott.computer/old-index.txt

okay i'll remove if it will make you happy : )

thanks for viewing the source ; )

I was just talking about this blog post with a friend yesterday. I’m curious to know the file size of the doc after 7 years.

So it's just symbolic? Seems odd to not have a click-through then.

Edit: Just checked some subpages and they forward to the announcement. I guess they really mean unavailable.

“The official website of the Royal Family is temporarily unavailable while appropriate changes are made.“

Nicely poetic approach to put the website in a sort of mourning state. Curious what changes need to be made.

Thanks for letting me know. Fixed.

Thanks for submitting. I got quite a few submissions from the HN traffic. Going through them now to make sure they meet the criteria.

Thanks for letting me know. Some things slip through the cracks and sometimes it's pretty hard to tell when a site is actually coded by hand. I'll take a look at the submission in question.

Hey, it's Elliott (creator of Gossip's Web, Special Fish https://special.fish, and other projects (https://elliott.computer). Thanks for checking out Gossips. There's a renewed interest in building websites by hand using basic but powerful tools (HTML/CSS/a little JavaScript). Gossip's is a directory of some of these sites and lets you submit your own.

The submission criteria is pretty straight forward (no links to social media or website builders). Also, please don't submit your latest startup : ) . Personal websites, web experiments, and small community sites are all very welcome. The $1 submission fee goes toward running/maintaining the directory (I make about $3-5/month on submissions so it's not about the money). Happy to answer any questions the HN community might have and have a nice weekend!

Does anyone know when the first test flight will be and if it will be recorded by the rover?

A much better post on the same topic: http://john.ankarstrom.se/html/

Funny how this article is now considered spam on HN. While I wish this article was just the interview with the apps creator, I was actually genuinely interested in this story and think its a much more important instance of Apple's censorship.