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also didn't reddit proudly make a blogpost earlier this year that they now censor more speech than the bird site and calling on it to do the same?
(oh and i've been linked normal, SFW stuff where reddit now tries to make me create an account to see it because it's "18+". no, i am not "becoming a redditor" especially not to view one link. if they kill old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com it will be literally unusable.)
> You're racist
stfu man, i can't even argue with you if you won't operate with a bare minimum of good faith.
none of this really seems to fit with a GMO hypothesis.
ngl i think this is just a epigenetic shift from people who have been "raised weak" for several generations. i can't prove it completely but there is some research showing that kids with milk allergies end up runty:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4362703/
https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(19)31475-7/ful...
besides europe won't even enforce many restrictions on iran. no way would they get on board with saudi arabia (esp since it would likely mean open more broadly).
now apply this problem of "potentially hateful depending on context" to more important stuff. some racists have abused studies on demographic differences to give hateful rhetoric some "scientific" backing, ignoring that you can't generalize from a population to an individual. this has led to mention of demographic differences being very sensitive subjects and sometimes labeled as "hateful". but i don't think we want to stop all research involved with this.
i do not trust the government to make these determinations about when context is hateful and not. since Americans are much less trusting of government than most europeans maybe you can see why we come down on a much higher bar for the government restricting speech and even higher for prior restraint.
let's take a counterexample from your country, where a man was sentenced to community service for a "grossly offensive tweet": the only good Brit soldier is a deed one, burn auld fella buuuuurn
he faced possible jail time. now i think this is more easy to identify as "hateful" than prior examples i've listed. i don't know if this was the person's intent, but in this case hate can serve a legitimate political purpose (anti-imperialism/anti-military industrial complex). similar to how "all cops are bastards" is "hateful" towards cops but again serves a legitimate political purpose (protesting police brutality, racial profiling, etc.)
so again, should anyone really trust a government to be the entity to determine what is "too hateful"?
but i guess only the "verified journalists" or whatever will be allowed to review this then explain it to us proles as they see fit.
ofc defamation law exists. the difference is that is decided in court not by some eurocrat apparatchik. and there has to be some harm demonstrated. and there are special protections for e.g. journalists (see times v. sullivan) that make it even harder in those cases.
how is brussels going to "ban those websites out of europe lol"? license the great firewall from china? hmm yes definitely sounds like a free and open society to me.
> what "we" defend there is called "human rights"
ok cool y'all think that. we think that y'all's vision of "free" speech is authoritarian and necessarily prevents civil disagreement on some important issues, it's already obvious we don't agree on that. but that's not the problem, it's how to reconcile 2 different legal concepts on the same platform. tbh there's no reason why an American would care. if anything it's the euros expecting the rest of the world to police their speech to euro standards that think they're the center of the universe.
like imagine i host a human rights site. if iran says it is illegal for me to provide access to content supporting womens rights to iranian citizens, it is not "illegal" for me to continue doing so because i am American, i live in America, and i operate only by American laws. America would not extradite me to iran for failing to comply with their internet rules.
i mean the point here is not to argue which vision of free speech is correct, as an American i obviously disagree but what's at issue is how they're separated. y'all may not want a "siloed" solution, but y'all have also passed laws that restrict stuff more than the rest of the world. the rest of the world is not willing to have its speech policed to meet german/EU sensibilities so this is a possible compromise.
am i "operating" in zimbabwe, or moldova, or fiji? no.
if twitter stops selling ads to EU entities, closes any offices, and hosts just outside the EU borders it does not have to comply. if for no other reason then the eu loses its power to enforce.