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So far our solutions were more or less understood thru some models of reality that we’ve constructed (on our own), which may or may not reflect reality perfectly, and even if most of us never bothered thinking about these models, some people did and they understood them on a very deep level.
But we may be getting to a point where the problems we need to tackle become too difficult for humans to model, or even to notice their existence, like asking an ant how a Boeing 747 works.
Maybe this was always the case but now it seems like we might have a shot at making these solutions useful even if we have no idea what they’re even solving.
There’s some hubris in thinking we can understand everything. For truly difficult problems, it’s entirely possible that humans are simply incapable of comprehending why a solution is true. But ultimately the practical value of applying that solution to the real world is going to eclipse our need to understand it.
Math is just the beginning. I see it happening in other fields too, like physics and biology. Many of us software devs have already given up on understanding parts of our own systems for the exact same reason.
Seems like a losing battle.
Speed and cost are obvious reasons, but isn’t this a tradeoff?
>Quiet is not proof that nobody is recording, and a detection is not proof that anyone is
Is such claudespeak it’s not even annoying it’s just funny at this point
It’s kind of like designing the high level software architecture yourself and have the LLM write the code for each component.
Not bulletproof, requires some iteration, but miles better than what it would produce on its own.
This might work well for some tasks (coding), but for writing it will absolutely take reasonable text and turn it into a pile of incoherent garbage no human would ever write.
Maybe I’m the only one keeps trying this (more often than I’m willing to admit), but I suspect it’s a common cope engineers reach for when having to deal with the not-so-fun task of writing prose.
We’ve always had output schemas for LLMs, and we’ve had small language classifiers for decades, so what’s new? Is it just some sweet spot in between in terms of quality vs speed?
But wouldn’t it be way more economical to have some sort of AI-insurance service? i.e. protection against AI fucking things up?
By analogy with code, do we still need code to be maintainable/readable if machines write it all?
(Obviously for now the answer is yes, but I’m not sure this will be the case in 5-10 years)
Perhaps you are misaligned.
Who decided the goal of math must be human insight?
First off, some mathematical truths might simply be far beyond our biological comprehension.
Second, for us non-mathematicians, the value of math isn't in understanding exactly why a result is true, it’s in how those results can be applied to actually improve our lives.
Isn't this why we have math in the first place? To solve our real problems? Over time it morphed into this pursuit of pure theoretical insight, probably out of necessity at the time, but is it still necessary?
I tried writing a few skills to encourage agents to spend time thinking about this but it doesn’t seem to generalize very well.
When you're using ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini etc. you're basically already interacting with some backend harness with tools etc., not a raw LLM. Just give it a computer and be done with it.
I already find myself using Claude Code / Antigravity (via web) instead of Claude / Gemini, even for tasks unrelated to coding. Why use a limited version?
These sort of fast and cheap models are great for tasks that are verifiable and can be retried infinitely (like coding), you can basically get frontier results with a good harness (at a fraction of the time and money).
Can’t help but wondering, how will this look like if we had AI try to “augment” these maps in real time (maybe using street view images?). I wonder if it would be playable in reasonable FPS, and how expensive it would be.
Idea is terrible, implementation is WAI.