You are confusing a sense of accomplishment for happiness. That suggests that you may not have felt happiness enough (or recently enough) to recognize it.
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They have no reviews in major media. They have both good and bad reviews in minor media. The "millions of users" claim is not supported at all.
>Any examples? Surely those mythical people know how to save a screenshot, right?
Yes, I happen to collect screenshots of things that are well known every time anyone talks to me about anything just in case some random redditard wants proof that the sky is blue.
Two of those are subjective and I'll ignore. But it is educational, it links to alternatives to 37 signals products.
>I can't really think of anything 37signals has done to warrant this
The company and its reputation was built on aggressively bad-mouthing and trash-talking anyone and everyone they could. Remember when rails started out? Anyone who dared to like something other than their framework was an idiot (at best).
Your claim is just as baseless as the one you are responding to, which was pointing out how baseless the original claim "they make good software" was.
>not many unsatisfied customers in their forums.
They heavily censor their forums. I know lots of former customers of theirs who were more than just unsatisfied with them.
Well PHP programmers are going to want to use PHP anyways. But as far as users not knowing how to setup a server, that's true. But it is also irrelevant. Tons of people provide tons of different VM images for all sorts of things, node included. At that point it is no harder than PHP, with the added benefit of not needing to upgrade PHP every 2 weeks for the latest round of security holes.
That is what he said though. I understand it is one example for a larger point, but it is an example that doesn't support that point at all. It is pretty hard to judge the overall point when the example is nonsense.
Minimizing keywords is important not because of a word shortage, but because of an overlap with words the programmer wants to use. It is obvious that if you make "i" a keyword, someone will likely murder you. But there's tons of grey area where you might be stepping on toes and getting in the way, so minimizing the amount of toe stepping is good. Especially since there is absolutely no reason to have lots of keywords.
"Being portable assembler" is not solving one problem at all, it is one of the most general things you could cite. That literally is being a better language.
Java took millions of dollars of marketing to make it popular, people didn't just suddenly flock to it because it was C with garbage collection (which was already a solved problem: see C).
Perhaps lisp "never took off" (seems like it took off pretty well to me) because it isn't the greatest language ever? Lisp barely is a language, it is more of a toolkit to build a language with.
People who don't live in a fantasy bubble world where that is true? "Hey, just throw away 1% of your potential user base for no reason" isn't a very compelling sales pitch.
Yes, but as I said I don't see any indication that the bias is towards "enterprise" at all. Python's use in statistics and related fields is quite small compared to its competition in those areas, which don't even show up. So it seems very unreasonable to suggest that is what is giving python a hugely inflated figure just to maintain the notion that there is an "enterprise" bias.
Exactly what I said. You can go read your post if you have forgotten its contents.
>not end users who remain, for the most part, unaware of whatever issues may lie under the hood.
You are simply repeating yourself. Paul Phillips contradicts you, and I find him to be much more credible.
>Other than Haskell, given the context of the thread, which language might you be referring to as the better alternative to Scala?
Ocaml, F#, SML and clean.
>please name this better alternative that is presumably not Haskell.
Why would it not be haskell? Haskell is pretty obviously the best option.
2. It is not a well written about issue at all. If it was you would show some support for it rather than try to deflect.
3. Of course not. But your claim is still absurd, being ignorant of this fact does not change it.
4. I have likely been programming in untyped languages longer than you have been alive. Your claim was not an opinion, you stated a (completely incorrect) factual thing. "I like untyped languages" is an opinion. "Dynamically typed languages let you do things that are impossible in statically typed languages" is a factual claim, one which is complete nonsense, and you have totally failed to support.
You made a completely baseless claim, and then when asked to support it said "no, you support my argument for me". That is what I said deserves to be downvoted to oblivion, not your original bullshit claim, which is just typical ignorance.
If they are using gentoo, you should be finding someone else. Gentoo users are typically the most dangerous combination of profoundly ignorant, yet absurdly overconfident in their abilities. Seeing a bunch of autotools and gcc output scroll by does not teach you anything. But the mistaken reputation as an "advanced" distro makes people think that by using gentoo, they are therefore "advanced".
He says, after suggesting you can't trust what someone says because they are an evangelist.
>Kmett has, I believe, taken on a larger role in Haskell, perhaps officially with FP Complete
FP complete is an independent company and has no official involvement in GHC or any other haskell implementation. Edward is not involved with FP complete. Edward is involved in the haskell community and the scala community. In neither case is he anything like an evangelist (which would make no sense anyways, you can't convert the converted). It seems odd that you are so adamant about inventing a fictional promotional context for him after claiming there's nothing wrong with that.
>Referring to a presentation by Paul Phillips, an absolute Scala giant, and equating that with what the average Scala programmer encounters in their daily work does not negate my argument...in the slightest.
Perhaps you should actually take the time to listen to it. A significant part of what he was saying was "this stuff matters". Just because the person doing the presentation knows scala very well, does not mean the problems he points out do not effect people who know scala less well.
>When you leave Scala and remain on the JVM there is no better statically typed alternative, IMHO
I am not sure how that is relevant. I don't care about the JVM.
>Just getting my feet wet, maybe I'll learn to love it, but for now, to get shit done in the real world, it's Scala and the JVM.
Or this. Do you remember the part where I tried to convince you to use haskell? Neither do I.