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There never were any. Name this mystical time when he U.S. government was some benevolent force for good and not constantly lying to the civilian population to push them to unwanted wars.
>I'm not here to argue for or against the drones.
Congrats on being a mediocre person who doesn't believe in anything or have any opinions. This is the most offensive thing I think, even more than me disagreeing with you. Just picking middle of the road bland boring contrariness.
>We all know war is hell.
Apparently "we" don't because people continue to wage war.
>We know using weapons to attack people creates horrific, real human harm.
No, making it into a game complete with an Xbox controller abstracts the realness from it.
> So starting off listing the effects of weaponry on humans tells us nothing about drones. It just tells us about the horrors of war. Given this is an article about drones it should be very drone specific.
It isn't about drones, its about killing people. Who gives a fuck if it is a drone or a spoon. It is clearly an article about shitty wars being pursued by shitty people, not about how technologically advanced drones are.
>Today if we make a mistake we bomb the wrong home and kill everyone. 25 years ago we bombed the entire village.
What a false fucking dichotomy. How about not bombing fucking anyone? And who the fuck is "we"? I didn't bomb anyone and will continue to not bomb anyone.
>"The view is so pixelated it makes decisions tough" Can you imagine military people who fight/fought on the ground in real combat and order in strikes reading that? Surrounded by smoke and fire and deafening noise and hoping (or maybe not caring) that the strike they call in hits the right target/s vs all the nearby civilians also hiding and cowering in a village?
Again, false dichotomy. It does not have to be grainy drone feeds or confused soldiers on the ground. There are more options than A or B.
>The military is aware of the impact on these operators.
That doesn't mean they give a shit. I am aware of the drug addict a few houses down. I don't care.
>Lastly, imagine how you'd feel reading a similar opinion piece on Fox News from a gun ho former operator talking about all the American lives he saved by observing and taking out "the bad guys".
I wouldn't care. I don't care about "American lives" and I don't care about insurgency lives. I care about people regardless of nationality. I feel bad for the jack asses on both sides that eat up the lies of their leaders and kill each other in the name of nothing.
>What's even better with drones we're not losing American solider lives and dramatically reducing the number of innocent civilians killed vs how we would have approached the same problem just 25 years ago.
Its amazing how redefining anyone that is an adult male who dies as an enemy combatant reduces civilian deaths as well.
>War is hell. The issues are complex. Trusted new sources add to the debate. Biased ones feed their viewership what they know they'll eat up and do little, maybe even damage, the search for truth.
Being a boring middle of the road stick in the mud does more damage than anything.
Nothing happens. Nothing. The reason those people are pissed is because of the U.S. government constantly fucking with them and poking them. Over throwing governments, secret renditions, locking up loved ones in Guantanamo with no trial indefinitely. I'd be fucking pissed too.
I doubt he gives a shit, and the reason we are in this mess is because most people think people like him do give a shit, they are just "misinformed."
So the companies in Canada don't pay taxes? Sign me up!
These corporations, to my knowledge, have never used their data to:
* Spy on love interests
* Kill people abroad unilaterally
* Construct court cases against people
* Imprison people for victimless crimes (or any crime for that matter)
* Add me to no-fly lists
* Forcibly extract money from me to make me pay for their programs
I am fine with losing it.
We do. Its called English.
I have.
I was pulled over in Dallas, TX because my tag light as "out." He made me step out of the car. When I did, I looked at my tag light. I was not out. I told him. He then changed his story to it was "too dim." (It was the factory light in the factory casing, etc. All stock.).
He then asked if I was okay with a search. I told him no, so he called the drug dog.
Drug dog hit on my car on the third time around it. They ripped my car apart, threw my laptop on the ground, let the dog crawl all over my interior. This entire time my car was running. They kept me there long enough to run down 3/4ths a tank of gas.
After they found absolutely nothing (I don't do drugs outside of caffeine and alcohol once a month or so.) the dick head started trying to rip off my fucking interior door panels because he knew there was something there. He started with the one on the opposite side of the car that the dog hit on.
The other officer talked him out of it and they let me be on my way, but then I had to spend the next half hour picking my shit up off the side of a 6 lane interstate at 10:30 PM in the fucking dark, praying I didn't leave something behind or get hit.
Cops are are worse people on average than a random group of the general population. "Domestic violence is 2 to 4 times more common in police families than in the general population." [0]
[0]http://www.purpleberets.org/violence_dv_extent_problem.html
[0]http://www.threefeloniesaday.com/Youtoo/tabid/86/Default.asp...
I'll trade my roads, my Linux, my Android phone, whatever in exchange for the ending of killing those overseas and domestically.
[0]http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari...
This was the first of a few symptoms.
Carry on then.
Just right off the bat, what the fuck? My start to my college career was me and my mom lugging my stuff 300 miles to the dorms, unloading, her hugging me good bye, then not seeing her again for 2 months.