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Pi9h

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Pi9h··on Atlassian enables default data collection to train AI
I’m building a self-hosted Confluence alternative called Docmost. It’s open-source and can run fully air-gapped.

GitHub: https://github.com/docmost/docmost

Pi9h··on Notion leaks email addresses of all editors of any public page
Perhaps try it first before dismissing it as just a “note-taking tool,” which it isn’t.

We have support for team-spaces, permissions, diagrams, real-time collaboration, comments, page verification workflows, AI, SSO/LDAP, search, audit logs, API, public sharing, and a lot more.

Btw, we have plans to introduce a database-like feature.

Pi9h··on Notion leaks email addresses of all editors of any public page
I’m building Docmost, a self-hosted alternative to Notion and Confluence.

It’s open-source, easy to self-host and feature-packed.

GitHub: https://github.com/docmost/docmost.

Pi9h··on The next chapter for Atlassian and our customers
If you are looking for a self-hosted Confluence alternative, I am building Docmost - an enterprise-ready wiki solution.

We have support for spaces, real-time collaboration, built-in diagrams (drawio, mermaid, excalidraw), comments, groups/permissions and more.

url: https://docmost.com

Pi9h··on We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries
I am also building https://docmost.com, a self-hostable Confluence alternative that can run fully air-gapped.

It has support for spaces, real-time collaboration, a rich-text editor, built-in diagrams support and more.

We launched on HN 1 year ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40832146

Pi9h··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
The next sharing goal would be to make it possible to share an entire "Space", but not the "Workspace" itself.

Would that fit the ideas you have in mind?

Pi9h··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
You could use the Iframe embed feature to embed your NocoDB databases.
Pi9h··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
If anyone is looking for an alternative to Notion without the bloat, I’m building https://docmost.com.

It has a nice UI, real-time collaboration, diagrams support and more.

You can self-host it too.

Pi9h··on Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline
I am building Docmost (Open-source alternative to Confluence and Notion).

We have integrated support for Excalidraw, Draw.io and Mermaid diagrams; Plus real-time collaboration.

Github: https://github.com/docmost/docmost

Pi9h··on How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup
Docmost founder here.

Thanks for reporting the mobile table issue. I will have a look at it.

The fullwidth issue on mobile was recently reported. It will be fixed soon.

I appreciate your feedback.

Pi9h··on Notion's mid-life crisis
If you are looking for a self-hostable Notion alternative, I am building Docmost, which is open source.

It has real-time collaboration and support for diagrams (drawio, excalidraw and mermaid).

It can be tempting to want to do it all, but I am focused on building a great wiki and documentation software.

GitHub: https://github.com/docmost/docmost

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
I am glad you see the value in it. I appreciate your kind words. Thank you.
Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
The docker installation script is for Ubuntu. I added it to help some users get started pretty quickly.

On the installation page, there is a link to the official Docker guide which comes first. That should help other users with an OS-specific installation guide.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
No public demo yet, but I can create a temporary one for you if you email (in bio) me.
Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
While some Tiptap Pro extensions would have made things a little easier, I appreciate that the core and majority of the extensions are open source. It has the building blocks to create custom extensions without limits.

Docmost does not depend on any Pro Tiptap extensions.

The team at Tiptap are doing something really amazing. I believe it is fair that they find avenues to make revenue from it.

I like Lexical, but I found Tiptap first and loved it.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
I should have been more explicit.

I do not intend to change the Postgres database or introduce a new one. I’m sure this won’t be an issue for the majority use-case.

However, I am open to learning more about alternate ways to efficiently handle Yjs state updates, which may be useful for a cloud version that would run at scale. If I were to go that way, it would not affect self-hosted users and would probably be via a reference pointer and not a database switch.

This is absolutely not an issue at the moment. Nothing to worry about.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
I truly appreciate your in-depth articulation.

Indeed, the Yjs state update can be problematic due to its growing size and constant updates.

I will have a look at MyRocks. Reference pointers sound more plausible.

I spent time analyzing and deciding my usage of uuid7 from different perspectives. From the git logs, you can see it came at the last minute.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
I guess the best way will be to store the PNG/SVG in the storage driver with a reference to it in the editor. The same PNG/SVG will get updated/replaced whenever the code is updated. I need to do more study on this.

Storing the raw data in the editor will bloat the Prosemirror JSON and Yjs state (real-time collaboration) which I want to avoid.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
I have plans for a cloud-hosted version. It will come in the future.
Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
1. "Project" sounds good too.

2. With a small change, I can make the frontend use the window.location URL if none is set. On the backend, the catch is emails. Emails with link use the APP_URL to build it.

3. I do not really think "backup" belongs to the UI, but there is a possibility. I plan to work on HTML and Markdown exports. We have what it takes already from the editor.

3. Latex and Comments do not use the Tiptap Pro extensions, so it's fine. Also, the comment extension is entirely different from Tiptap's own which depends on Tiptap Cloud to work.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
Since Obsidian is Markdown, it should be pretty straightforward to write an import program for it.

When I start working on the import feature, this will be possible.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
I thought about it.

For example, the sidebar page tree supports keyboard navigation.

The UI library I am using, Mantine, follows accessibility best practices and has full keyboard support.

There is still a lot to do in this regard. As the project progresses, more support will come.

In the past, I built a Twitter bot (@threadvoice) to help people listen to Twitter threads in audio format ( https://twitter.com/Philipofficial9/status/11899711858004869... ). I had accessibility as one of my motivations while building it.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
I have plans for OIDC integration.
Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
The software itself is very easy to install, even without Docker. You are set with just three commands: pnpm install, pnpm build and pnpm start.

Docker is not a hard dependency but it was the easiest way to document it and hope it works for everyone, given the Postgres and Redis requirements.

With time, I will create documentation for other platforms.

Thank you.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
Thank you. It was my first time doing react things. The great Mantine UI (https://mantine.dev/) react library helped a lot.
Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
Yes, I have. I have tried the Affine demo, but not SiYuan. I think they are both great and promising.
Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
Synced blocks are interesting. It might come in the future.
Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
1. You were using an older docker compose version, I guess? Newer versions recommend `docker compose` without the dash.

2. Your understanding of the hierarchy is correct. Workspace -> Space -> Page. I admit, the naming is similar and can be confusing. I just couldn't come up with a conclusive alternative while self-debating it. Do you have better suggestions?

3. I will look into the title issue. Thanks for pointing out.

4. I will put the APP_URL thing in mind too.

5. The pages are stored in the pages table. The content is stored in 3 formats, i. Prosemirror Json (default editor state). ii. Yjs state (real-time collaboration). iii. raw Text (for search indexing). The affected tables are json_content, ydoc and text_content

5. I will look into the redirect issue, and "Copy link" bug.

I appreciate your feedback and thank you for trying it out.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
1. You can use Markdown shortcuts.

2. Collaborative editing makes updating content outside the editor tricky. It will work, but not very well. I will consider supporting content updates via the API in a future release.

Pi9h··on Show HN: I am building an open-source Confluence and Notion alternative
1. You can use markdown shortcuts on the editor. It works.

2. Mermaid support is coming.

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