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Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
Very interesting. I am curious: Is the "test" part actual live trading, or is it also a backtest?

I am asking because I see the agents can do websearch, so how is Alphadidatic preventing the agents from just looking at the asset's performances and cheat?

Back to our product. It is not 2C yet. So we are building the RL Envrionments for finetuning LLM, not providing a personal trading agent. However we can also build a professional trading harness using the setup we have. If you are interested, let's keep in touch: michael.zhang@edotenv.com

Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
We are selling to frontier labs, e.g. OAI and Ant, and fintech companies that are trying to build agentic trading system but do not have those internal quant setups, e.g. Coinbase, Kalshi etc.
Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
It is not only quant research. We also have live trading: https://edotenv.com/blog/long-horizon-planning

For now it is only facing LLM/Agent.

Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
Quant trading is an extremely high margin business itself. Quant shops are printing billions and have on average much higher profits per employee than tech companies. So it is definitely a business worth doing.

On the other hand, you could also view quant research as some very hard research problems, so training LLMs on these problems could also enhance their general research capabilities.

Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
It is the raw trace, so it is the most complete records but hard for human to read. We showcased some features they found in this research blog post: https://edotenv.com/blog/alpha-autoresearch
Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
It is both. We can use the same setup for both RL and Benchmarking.
Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
We do a 2 step anonymisation: 1. Mask all symbols, timestamps etc. So the agents cannot infer the assets/time periods. 2. Mathematically transform numerical values and returns. E.g. the market return targets are not the raw market returns, but neutralised and manipulated. So even the agents have certain bullish/bearish biases, it cannot make use of it, as we use the transformed values.

In addition, we did not observe such behaviour in our traces. An example: https://hub.harborframework.com/jobs/af0299f9-a3bb-44ea-8ced...

Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: EdotEnv (YC S26) – Quant Trading RL Envs to Teach LLMs Research
Here is an example rollout trace with gpt 5.6 luna. Checkout if you are interested what kind alphas the agent found XD https://hub.harborframework.com/jobs/af0299f9-a3bb-44ea-8ced...
Mzzzzz··on Launch HN: Tokenless (YC S26) – Automatic model switching to save money
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