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Gen AI is for losers. You did not write or "vibe code", you purchased code from an AI vendor. They fooled you into paying them to turn your brain off. You're not being paid more to produce more. Don't be bullied into using it - so what if you are "left behind." That sounds nice actually.
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What's the risk here? Left behind by who or what?
> Or taking an “agent first” approach and trying to learn and improve more only on the side, as more of an afterthought?
This reads like anxiety resulting from FOMO.
Here's my take: I don't care about LLMs or AI in the sense that I don't feel any need or want to use them. I've only ever tinkered with the free ChatGPT. Never opened an account with any LLM vendor and never even considered it. I program by hand for the joy of it and sometimes for work. Still by hand as I have been doing. MY work gives me that luxury. For now.
Am I obsolete? Am I no longer of any value to society? Of course not. That thinking is just implanted by a group of money hungry individuals who don't give a fuck about me, you or society as a whole. So why would or should I care about LLMs?
"The search engine found the answer too" is not an interesting response.
That's just marketing.
I'm drawing the line where the human effort is no longer there.
There was a similar argument against electronic music. No effort because no instrument is played. But the fact is the instrument just changed shape, drastically.
Like there's an artist I am sure a few here would be familiar with: Master Boot Record, a video game heavy metal electronic blend fully composed on a DAW. MBR live streams his composition sessions while chillin in his own irc channel he's hosting himself so you can chat with him. It's impressive to hear how he lays down notes, loops it, tweaks and expands it, then little by little builds a song passage by passage. Often with the irc channel reacting to the process itself and perhaps influencing the output. You know when it finally clicks and you're left feeling "Oh that was cool as fuck!" That's uniquely human, a life form that evolved over billions of years on a mud ball floating in a vast vacuum - at random. Talking, thinking, playing, laughing meat. Amazing huh?
An AI shitting out a similar pattern because it was trained on the same and similar patterns is not interesting or original. It's just a really good illusion from a well tuned stochastic parrot. It's interesting in the technical sense, but not in the artistic one. There was no creative process involved. Prompting is just a well formed set of instructions and questions which a human could understand - a spec. Nothing special there. It's like driving to McDonalds and ordering a quarter pounder with cheese meal. As a search engine, cool. As an artist, no thanks.
This just assumes I'm listening to mainstream music or whatever when I mostly buy grungy metal and whatever else I enjoy off Bandcamp. Many times, directly supporting the artist.
> ... local diners work, you might not be so impressed.
I already stated the homemade gyro platter and they're mozzarella sticks w/sauce are slammin and they are proud of it. Sure it's business but they crafted some damn fine mozzarella sticks and they always come out crispy and oozing with hot but not roof melting cheese. That's giving a damn even if its slammin a few in the fryer then tossin em on a plate and sendin em into the human ether. I hope they stay around as they're a great Sunday afternoon lunch spot with friends.
So what if its indistinguishable - its not a product of human intellect or effort. I feel there is a large disconnect where people look at artful output such as music or writing as a thing no different than a box of paper clips. To them, "It's just there." They don't care how it got there, they just like the feeling they get from the consumption.
That's fast food thinking; It's engineered to be "tasty" in the sense that they put the right amount of chemicals into the food to tickle the right nerve endings. It's junk food that exists to turn a profit. Whereas even the local diner puts effort into its food and has a damn fine Greek menu and the best mozzarella sticks.
I don't use AI at all in my daily life.
Work however will demand you use it.
AI is not here to help people.
Isn't that something you determine yourself? I listen to a lot of heavy metal because I like it. I also wander around bandcamp and find stuff that isn't heavy metal, but enjoyable, so I buy it. My brain is my algorithm.
What do these two have to do with each other? How does comparing a government official to a corporation work? Or does this person believe the US is an oligarchy and has no government (might be true these days?)
Whats to be done? Patch the software to rate limit the transmission of midi frames. This is a giant nothing burger.
It amuses me that back in the 90's LCD color screens were magical fairy dust that cost about the same as what magical fairy dust would cost. Laptops with color LCD screens were like $6000 in the 90's, I think $3k over a greyscale. That's like $13k today.
Whereas the little plastic buttons and knobs were cheaper to pump out of an injection molding machine and assembled. Now screens are cheaper to make than little plastic baubles.