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LeonardoTolstoy··on Netflix Ships Last DVD
Genuinely curious whether there were films you found on the DVD service that were inaccessible via your local library loan system (if you are in the US that is, did Netflix ever do the DVD service outside the US though?)

Good library systems have a good percentage of DVD released films readily available for free.

LeonardoTolstoy··on The Decomposition of Rotten Tomatoes
I feel the need to point out that the issue is usually the opposite. Looking at 2023 only three wide release films have had a discrepancy where the critics were more than 20% higher than the verified audience score (Infinity Pool, You Hurt My Feelings, and Skinamarink if you were curious).

There are far more where the verified audience score is way higher and they tend to either be religious films or films with very low numbers of audience reviews (aka selection bias)

LeonardoTolstoy··on The Decomposition of Rotten Tomatoes
There is another half of the "overly political" bit and well but where the audience is at fault for the discrepancy. Basically: an out group decides to make a point with bad reviews.

Doesn't happen as much anymore since they require proof of ticket purchase to review, but it still will on occasion. And it happened enough previously that they specifically had to put the proof of purchase condition in place.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Ask HN: Tell us about your project that's not done yet but you want feedback on
For about a year I've been going through the process of gathering all of the television listing pages from the New York Times, processing them to extract the films that played each day, matched the films to their IMDB links, and parsing the VCR codes to get the time/channel as well. Now I'm creating a little frontend to view and analyze the data as well as curate bits that didn't match properly.

At the moment I'm mostly just planning on sharing it with my brother, but who knows. I generally think I'll eventually share the data somewhere possibly on a website. I can't commercialise it if I understand the New York Times license properly since I scraped the Timesmachine for the listing pages.

Regardless, it's been super fun, and the data is very cool. Like 21 thousand unique films. At the moment I'm mostly trying to decide if I want to continue adding bits, like seeing all the listings a specific actor was in ... Mostly to test the hypothesis purported by PCU that there is always a Michael Caine or Gene Hackman film on television (I'm joking obviously there isn't although it is closer than you'd think). At the moment you can view an individual date or all of the listings for a specific film.

To me this is starting to feel almost like a Wikipedia thing or internet archive. This is, in a way, a specific ground truth of when television programs played in the New York area. I just have no idea who or what would be interested in it.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)
Badminton is a bit too far from tennis for my liking (as is ping pong), so I never got into it.

As for the others, padel is far far far more athletic than pickleball (and paddle tennis for that matter), and I would argue even more so than tennis. I grew up playing tennis and I love it, but padel is more finesse and also scratched that itch of learning a whole new sport. I learned it in the UK 3-5 years ago, and I do very much miss it. Literally I think there is one court in all of New England, it is crazy how much of a not-thing it is considering it was invented in Mexico.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)
Great game. Wish it would catch on more quickly in the US, there are basically no courts in the northeast.
LeonardoTolstoy··on Perils of not being attractive or athletic in middle school
I find it interesting that the study asked about being athletic (positive), attractive (positive), and unpopular (negative). Anecdotally the people I knew (at the time) who were drinking in middle school didn't fit into any of those boxes and actually I wouldnt have called attractive, unattractive, athletic, unathletic, popular, or unpopular. I do wonder if they had asked about a different set of three (or all six) dimensions whether the result would have changed.
LeonardoTolstoy··on Watch TV from the 90s and earlier
Actually I had a bit of a brain fart, it is actually 21K, not 26K so a bit less.

There is at least 100 different films from every year from 1931 to 1999 it looks like (obviously many more from the 80s and 90s). But even just considering that, that's 7K as an absolute minimum. With straight-to-video and TV films the 90s peaked with ~850 unique films from 1995 alone playing on television. And to just give an idea of the level of obscurity, the median IMDb vote count for 1995 is 500, so half are on the level of something like https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0122968/ (which yes, played 7 times, mostly on TMC in March of 1996). Also once you get very obscure things get all muddled. Like with https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112363/ which is marked as 1995 but certainly appears to have played once on television in 1991 so IMDb is wrong in this case. And of course there are a number of mistakes due to titles matching which I'm slowly correcting.

There are some caveats. This guy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0222755/, played 6 times, but on channel 41 (which at the time was Spanish language maybe?), so it has 0 votes on IMDb, but played 6 times on television, which is odd but not unheard of. But you do have to consider that this is using a slightly larger range of channels (some specific to the New York region, like CUNY and MSG) than one might expect. I would guess though that maybe 40% of films play on TCM, SHO, MAX, or HBO ultimately though. Most channels didn't play movies ever outside of primetime.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Watch TV from the 90s and earlier
Sure. I don't know how best to go about that though. I have my email associated with this account, but since I lurk I don't know if that is public or anything. Does HN have a PM system at all?
LeonardoTolstoy··on Watch TV from the 90s and earlier
I've been working on it for about a year. At the moment it exists as a git repo (as you say), but for it to be of use you need at the very least the corresponding SqliteDB (~70MB) and to be really fun (and work with the frontend) you need the listing pages themselves (high res and ~50GB), neither of which is in the git repo, I keep them separate.

If you message me privately I'd be happy to share the data. The git repos are:

https://github.com/patsmad/nyt-listings https://github.com/patsmad/nyt-listings-app

I use them for curation at the moment so the READMEs leave ... something to be desired. I hope by the end of August to have a read-only version up and running, although without a wikipedia-like effort I don't see how I would curate it fully so it'll probably always be a little touch and go as to what data is available.

The stats I have from curating are: 369345 individual movie "listing boxes" (I would guess around 98% accuracy, although if I were to field a guess the actual number there should be is probably 400K) of which 321308 are matched to a movie, and 296941 of those are for sure unique. And overall 202203 have channel + time + duration matched up using the VCR listings (which the New York Times conveniently published from around November 20th 1990, and the internet archive very nicely has the program the VCRs used to encode/decode those codes). There are 21530 unique movies at the moment.

If I understand the New York Times correctly, then none of this can be commercialized since I scraped the core data (the pages themselves) from the TimesMachine, so this really is a personal project, which I'm happy to share. I've made a few Letterboxd lists from the corresponding data, for example a series of lists with all of the movies (and play times) for films playing on September 1 in particular e.g. https://letterboxd.com/patsmad/list/television-films-septemb... It is rather consistent, around 100 films a day, for 1990-1999 it was 106, 118, 74, 74, 89, 99, 98, 110, 97, 93. As is obvious I can talk about this for days.

I'm not sure the best way to do private messages, my email is associated with this account, but I have no idea if you can see that. I usually just lurk on HN.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Watch TV from the 90s and earlier
I have a bit of this information. I can get into the specifics if you like but I've parsed the entire 90s tv listings from the New York times.

It is pretty comprehensive and obviously it keeps the same market (NY). On your last point yeah the amazing thing is just how variable the length of movies are. Also just how many there were! Over 26 thousand unique films played on the 60ish channels in the New York Times in the 90s. Around 100 a day. Some films have like 40 votes on IMDb and played 20 times on television.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Watch TV from the 90s and earlier
When/if you get around to it I'm basically already in the process of doing this (although just for the fascinating dataset of knowing all the movies that played on television in the 90s, when, and how often). TV guide is tough. The New York Times has the TimesMachine though and those have very comprehensive television listings. Possibly as comprehensive as the TV Guide which I was surprised by.
LeonardoTolstoy··on Watch TV from the 90s and earlier
It might be apocryphal but I vaguely remember reading an article from the late-90s or early-00s where television executives were shocked that people wanted TV box sets. The logic was ... Why would people want to watch reruns? Whole swaths of soap opera episodes were totally lost, the masters being taped over, occasionally found in a box in some remote TV station.

I have a small personal project of cataloging all the movies that played on television in the 90s. There are tons of television shows that are not only not available on DVD or VHS but also seemingly no one has it. Double goes for cartoons, tons just totally unavailable. It is sad.

LeonardoTolstoy··on We Don’t Do Legacy (2012)
Seems a tad bit disingenuous, only because the Ivy leagues are probably not competing for the top 100 QBs or top 100 point guards or top 100 pitchers either.

To me being the best quarterback at your school and playing varsity football for four years should basically be considered the same way, as you point out, being the top bassoonist would. And my guess is that for the vast vast majority of cases extracurricular activities are pretty much all created equal unless you do it to a degree that makes it notable (like being an all-state athlete, or playing with you regional symphony or something)

LeonardoTolstoy··on We Don’t Do Legacy (2012)
I know you said on general but I think it is worth pointing out that MIT doesn't specifically mark any athletes for admission like most schools can and do. At least when I applied.

I knew a varsity crew and varsity sailing athlete and despite both being nationally notable in their sports my understanding was the coaches could do nothing to "recruit" them. It of course helps in admission as much as playing a music instrument at a high level or being a published author might. If you have that plus elite academic achievements then you probably have a decent chance at admission to a school of your choosing.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries
I find the image results to be rather impressive. Or to be more precise, I feel like Bard is much much closer to changing "search" than chatGPT or Bing given the results I'm looking at.

To give an example. I gave it an image of a television listing from some time in 1996. It was for a television film fashioned from a two part episode of The Commish called Father Image. It correctly got all the information from the image, identified it as a TV movie based on an episode of a television show, and most impressively I think claimed that the tv show played on December 7, 1995. That wasn't when the listing was from, but that is the air date of the episode of the television show.

It is clearly using other bits of information (IMDb information about air dates I imagine) and effectively doing multiple db fetches / searches in the background to flesh out the information it is giving back. That is precisely what I want from a "new" style of search. Give it something simple and give me a bunch of curated information which otherwise would have taken multiple Google searches / diving into links to determine. Fun stuff.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Writing Python like it's Rust
Funny. I just started a side personal project and decided, since I didn't use types much at work to just try out a bunch of the newer python features. My code came out pretty much exactly like the blog.

But I've never coded in Rust. I could have written the exact same blog (excepting maybe the last bit) and called it "writing Python like it's Scala".

LeonardoTolstoy··on The skills gap for Fortran looms large in HPC
Yeah the switch was like '08 that MIT went to Python.
LeonardoTolstoy··on Ivy League Prices Are Pushing $90k a Year
According to their admissions website they have strict GPA minimums but there is no guarantee (which is how I interpreted the statement "Got top scores, you are in!")

Additionally they don't require the SATs at although prior to COVID they also had a minimum score for that.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Experimental library for scraping websites using OpenAI's GPT API
I use wikidata a lot for movie stuff. Ideally I imagine the wiki foundation itself will be looking into using LLMs to help parse their own data and convert it into wikidata content (or confirm it, or keep it up to date, etc.)

Wikidata is incredibly useful for things that I would considered valuable (e.g. the tMDb link for a movie) but due to the curation imposed upon Wikipedia itself isn't typically available for very many pages. An LLM won't help with that but another bit of information like where films are set would be a perfect candidate for an LLM to try and determine and fill in automatically with a flag for manual confirmation.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK
I know it isn't strictly what they are designed for, but I always go for movie questions which is what I tend to search for a lot.

Impressions: was very underwhelmed previously with charGPTs ability to tell be plot summaries for obscure films. It almost always made it up, even when prompted with a source (e.g. Wikipedia). Asking vague questions like "I can't remember but I'm looking for a film like war games but with a tiny helicopter" chatGPT always presented me with very popular films and could never quite key in on the "toy" or "small" bit of the query.

Bard seemed better in that while it couldn't quite get the movie right (for the record google itself gets the movie easily, Defense Play) it did eventually give me the right plot. Same with Ghost Fever which no matter what I did ChatGPT would always hallucinate the plot of. Unlike ChatGPT, Bard gave me the specific Wikipedia link quite often as well. It did make up the people and box office of obscure films pretty much universally.

Bard was actually really impressive for returning obscure results (which ChatGPT always seemed reluctant to do). I asked for another ghost film from 1987, and it happily returned Ghost Riders a film with a scant 200 votes on IMDb. Whenever I asked ChatGPT to give me bad or obscure films it would give me movies like Top Gun no matter how much I insisted I wanted something obscure.

I wouldn't trust either really, but Bard seems slightly closer to what I would hope a search/GPT integration felt like. But again I'm probably using it much differently than is intended to how others might interact with it.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Flow-Based Programming, a way for AI and humans to develop together
Yeah for searching movies, for example, it is terrible. I also don't really see how it is going to get much better than it is since it inevitably seems to try and steer its way to non-obscure stuff even when you are explicitly asking for something obscure.

Just for example. I was trying to remember a film that is basically a knock off of war games involving two teenagers using a scientists small helicopter to do stuff. I typed into Google "film with small helicopter" and it was not only the first result, it was in a little cut out section highlighted at the top. The film is called Defense Play and it has a grand total of 144 votes on IMDb. Incredibly obscure.

I thought it would be fun to ask ChatGPT roughly the same question and at first it just gave me a list of very popular movies with large helicopters. So I said, no this has a small helicopter or a toy helicopter in it. And it gave me a list of films with helicopters but three in Toy Soldiers, Small Soldiers (which probably does have a small helicopter in it) and GI Joe (which is based off a toy and has a helicopter probably).

No matter how much I insisted that this movie is obscure it can't quite figure out how to do anything about returning things that match something as vague as "obscurity" even though there are measures (e.g. IMBd votes) available that could reasonably give it such a notion. It probably does know about the movie, but whenever I ask about obscure movies while it often can give me a year and the first few actors in it it does seem to make up the plot even when asked to just paraphrase whatever plot synopsis it has available to it.

I do see it improving but I also wonder if a model which is heavily weighted towards guessing the next section of text will have difficulty with the unlikely scenario of someone being specifically interested in an obscure film a handful of people have ever bothered to watch. Seems really useful for searches where a person doesn't really know what they want, and very not useful in searches where the person knows they need a specific and obscure piece of information potentially.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Dropping the SAT requirement is a luxury belief
If you read the explanation I do think that makes sense in that they are very clear that it is specifically the _math_ portion of the SAT/ACT where they see the value. And generally I agree with that, especially as a threshold (as opposed to a fine ranking).

It was similar when I applied to grad school (this was engineering). They told us pretty unequivocally that getting a perfect GRE math score was pretty much required, but that the verbal went right in the bin, so don't worry about it.

It makes sense for engineering focused schools or those applying to engineering schools. I'm still less convinced places like Harvard where a good chunk of the students won't take a ultra-difficult math class during their time there has much use in the SATs. At least in the "I got a 1580 on my SATs but someone with a 1570 got in over me, how is that fair?" Kind of way.

LeonardoTolstoy··on The Political Bias of ChatGPT – Extended Analysis
First thing the understand is that isn't really a quote by "Stephen Colbert" the person it is a joke made via "Stephen Colbert" the character from the Colbert Report which was a caricature poking fun at Bill O'Reilly (mostly).

This character is a conservative infotainment host. And so when reality ultimately flies in the face of his conservative viewpoints the joke is that he merely dismisses reality because "reality has a liberal bias".

Within this context I imagine the argument is that in many cases what is perceived as a "political bias" by some might just be considered "reality" by others. For example there was the issue from the early 2000s of "teach the controversy" where some conservatives would have argued answering truthfully about the scientific consensus on evolution or global warming was "leftwing bias".

The most important thing I think is that it is a joke that simply rings true with a lot of people as time has passed.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?
(1) You are correct in that placing both of those questions into Google doesn't quite get you anywhere near the answer that I imagine ChatGPT gives you (as you point out). Although, Google does "infer" which Bush you are talking about, there isn't a clear "this person is older" answer, you have to dive into the wiki pages basically to get the answer.

(2) Counter. I asked it the other day "how many movies were Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan in together" and the answer ChatGPT gave was 2 ... not only is that wrong it is astonishingly wrong (IMO). You could be forgiven for forgetting Ithaca from 2015. I could forgive ChatGPT for forgetting that one. But You've Got Mail? That's a very odd omission. So much so I'm genuinely curious how it could possible get the answer wrong in that way. And for the record, Google presents the correct answer (4) in a cut out segment right at the top, a result and presentation very close to what one would expect from ChatGPT.

I don't know about other use cases like generating stories (or tangentially art of any kind) for inspiration, etc. But as a search engine things like ChatGPT NEED to have attributions. If I ask the question "Does a submarine appear in the movie Battlefield Earth?" it will confidently answer "no". I _think_ that answer is right, but I'm not really all that confident it is right. It needs to present the reasons it thinks that is right. Something like "No. I believe this because (1) the keyword submarine doesn't appear in the IMDb keywords (<source>), (2) the word submarine doesn't appear in the wikipedia plot synopsis (<source>), (3) the film takes place in Denver (<source>) which is landlocked making it unlikely a submarine would be found in that location during the course of the film."

The Tom Hanks / Meg Ryan question/answer would at least more interesting if it explained how it managed to be so uniquely incorrect. That question will haunt me though ... there's some rule about this right? Asking about something you have above average knowledge in and watching someone confidently answer it incorrectly. How am I supposed to ever trust ChatGPT again about movie queries?

LeonardoTolstoy··on Why Is Colorectal Cancer Rising Rapidly Among Young Adults?
Interesting because a friend of mine is a transplant hepatologist and has told me that the number of young people needing liver transplants due to alcohol abuse is abnormally high.

I suppose both "young people are generally drinking less alcohol" and "more young people than ever are abusing alcohol" could both be true statements.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Meatless meat is nothing new
Linda McCartney I assume is what you are referring to. Oddly easy to remember for me once I found out that it is, indeed, made by Paul McCartney's wife.
LeonardoTolstoy··on Ordering movie credits with graph theory
The main acting credits order in films is an interesting question as well which I guess could maybe be answered in a similar manner. Some films order actors alphabetically. Some by appearance. And some order the first N by some contractually reasoning, but then presumably the rest will be ordered less strictly, possibly somewhat randomly. I've always wanted to tackle the problem of trying to standardize the lists somewhat.

Just an example to explain what I mean. The film Bard Wire has an alphabetical cast list (so Pamela Anderson Lee, as she went by at the time, is mid way down the credits). Interestingly the "three actors" listed by IMDb has Anderson first, but then the next two are just the top two on the credits. It would be useful, to a degree, to try and figure out who those second and third people should be based on some metric.

LeonardoTolstoy··on Summarizing Books with Human Feedback
Honestly, I think you could do worse than the Wikipedia summary. That is maybe a bit too long (I can't remember the Wikipedia guidelines for books) it looks longer than 700 words. But from there I think you could fashion a solid 700 word summary of the book without too much trouble.
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