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Technical Founder of The Onion and The Stranger Magic: The Gathering, Netrunner, Vampire: The Eternal Struggle Aldus/Adobe QA for Quadshot: PowerPC Pagemaker www.zipbangwow.com https://mastodon.social/@jiejie
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JieJie··on Funny Because It's True: How The Onion Created Modern American News Satire
Author Christine Wenc is on a media tour marketing her book (available Tuesday, March 18th). Here are some excerpts and interviews.

https://soundcloud.com/wort-fm/christine-wenc-on-the-legacy-...

https://soundcloud.com/hachetteaudio/funny-because-its-true-...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/12/books/new-nonfiction-book...

JieJie··on AI isn't unleashing imaginations, it's outsourcing them
Sign me up for non-profit AI.

I'm a strong advocate for a united effort to create a training set of the collected works of mankind free to any AI company to use if, for instance, it uses its profits to fund UBI, or some other program to pay us for what they use.

Anything but AGI profits being used to keep score in the Oligarchy Olympics. I agree that is a bridge too far.

JieJie··on AI isn't unleashing imaginations, it's outsourcing them
I hear what you're saying, but The Guardian does have an opinion section this could have been printed in, but they chose to print it in Tech. The UX in Firefox for me, I could barely tell it was even in the Tech section, because the font is small and only bolded, where the rest of the menu options are in normal style. The News heading, however, is quite large, and has a strong red underline.

I think I was fair to call this out, and the article has been flagged by others.

JieJie··on AI isn't unleashing imaginations, it's outsourcing them
This is an opinion piece published to the News section of The Guardian. Interesting.

I don't see any how for-profit AI is a threat to anything but for-profit art.

However, I do know that printing opinion pieces as news is definitely a threat to journalism.

JieJie··on Ask HN: Who is working on AR for blind people
My friend uses Oko on iOS to tell her when the walk light is on, and when the numbers are counting down. There is also a navigation aid that she doesn't quite feel comfortable using yet, but I will say the Oko app being able to tell her (quite precisely) what is going on with the stoplight has been a big confidence booster for her getting out into the busy world.

https://www.ayes.ai

The leader in the field is BeMyEyes, of course. They've been working with Microsoft to integrate GPT-4o vision models into their app, with some great success. What we haven't seen yet is the move to live-video image recognition that could come from something like an OrCam or Meta glasses (they recently announced a partnership with Meta). I'm guessing there are serious safety issues with the model missing important information and leading someone vulnerable astray.

https://www.bemyeyes.com https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-eyes-meta-accessibility-...

OrCam has a new product (woe upon those of us who have the paltry OrCam MyEye2) that the Meta glasses will be competing against at an eye-watering > $4K price point, that seems to do less.

https://www.orcam.com/en-us/orcam-myeye-3-pro

As with the hearing aid industry which recently went over-the-counter causing prices to plummet, the vision aid product category is in temporary disarray as inexpensive new technologies makes their way into a premium-price market.

JieJie··on Dissociating language and thought in large language models
I’m not sure if this is exactly what you are referring to, but Anthropic has done a lot of interpretability work on Claude, which they’ve published along with the famous "Golden Gate Claude".^1

"We also find more abstract features—responding to things like bugs in computer code, discussions of gender bias in professions, and conversations about keeping secrets."

1: https://www.anthropic.com/research/mapping-mind-language-mod...

JieJie··on Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?
ACE of 9. Founded two successful alt-weekly newspapers, worked on world-famous collectible card games, lost it all due to illness that nearly killed me, recovering and slowly making my way back.

One thing a high ACE score did for me was make me an irresistible force, even as it seemed to turn the rest of the world into immovable objects.

JieJie··on LLMs Will Always Hallucinate, and We Need to Live with This
The US had a president for eight years who was re-elected on his ability to act on his “gut reaction”s.

Not saying this is ideal, just that it isn’t the showstopper you present it as. In fact, when people talk about “human values”, it might be worth reflecting on whether this a thing we’re supposed to be protecting or expunging?

"I'm not a textbook player, I'm a gut player.” —President George W. Bush.

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/2003/01/12/going-to...

JieJie··on Learning to Reason with LLMs
My share chat link moved into the sidebar in the … menu to the right of each chat title (MacOS Safari).
JieJie··on DJI Neo review – a drone that can do everything, and land in your hand
Sometimes it seems as if convenience and price are the technologies that are at the top of the list of consumers in the US market, and that other considerations come in a distant third. We seem to pay little attention to our collective goodwill these days.

I hope we can start putting our money where our mouth is, though.

(Adding on instead of making a new comment)

These are the kind of personal robots I am more interested in. I'm imagining an autonomous, voice-controlled (this isn't exactly that, but it's very close) little robot buddy, like a Destiny 2 Ghost. This is productized to be something different than that, but maybe this is a closer form factor (with what seems like useful protective nacelles to prevent it from damaging its environment).

It has wifi, and it wouldn’t be a stretch to have a 5G modem in a more expensive model (DJI has a deep bench at this point, all the way up to agriculture and delivery drones that have serious radio communication arrays).

I feel like with all the companies rushing to humanoid robotics, there should be a place for alternate forms like little drone buddies?

There seems like there could be a really sweet price-to-performance ratio that could open up a $1K or 2K personal robot that isn’t about doing tasks, but about remote sensing and processing?

JieJie··on AI Checkers Forcing Kids to Write Like a Robot to Avoid Being Called a Robot
Right. At my school, the accessibility option for tests is to give us more time. A three hour test would be made "accessible" by extending it to six hours or even more.

I was really hoping AI would make our world more accessible, not less.

(eta) Additionally, it would take more instructor or docent time, because no one can't be trusted to actually learn the material we're paying tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars for.

It ain't the future dystopia I'm afraid of, it's the one we're creating this week.

JieJie··on Wizardry Co-Creator Andrew Greenberg Has Passed Away
Loved Wizardry.

Before Wizardry, there was Akalabeth.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Akalabeth:_World_of_Doom

JieJie··on Cannoli allows you to build and run no-code LLM scripts in Obsidian
I'm having fun with this visual editor for LLM scripts. It's almost like Hypercard for LLMs.

On my 16GB MacBook Air, I did not have to set the OLLAMA_ORIGINS env variable. Maybe I did that a long time ago, as I have a previous Ollama install. This is the first really fun toy/tool that I've found that uses local (also supports foundation model APIs) LLMs to do something interesting.

I'm having a ball!

JieJie··on Who Goes Nazi? (1941)
I think I take your point, though that just sounds like another type of insecurity to me. I meant to turn what I took as the original meaning (personal insecurity as a character trait associated with goodness, kindness, happiness, etc.) around on itself by implying exactly what you seem to be saying about the point I missed.

If you mean what I think you mean, well, we probably don't disagree so much at that. How to make society less cruel, eh? There's the rub.

It seems that with that last quote you're agreeing with my point that people who have lost hope in achieving food, money, romance, work, housing, etc. (becoming insecure), would reach for tools in the authoritarian toolkit.

I do wonder if maybe you misunderstood me.

JieJie··on Who Goes Nazi? (1941)
"Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi."

In my experience, "Secure people never go Nazi and are generally kind, good, happy, and gentlemanly."

JieJie··on Noam Chomsky and the end of "America bad"
There is considerable proof in the public record for just such a belief.

"The logic of humanitarian military intervention gained force in the 1990s after the fall of the Soviet Union, “the unipolar moment” of American dominance, and after the Sept. 11 attacks, when it became increasingly common among conservatives to tie national security to democracy promotion abroad."*

*https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/opinion/biden-afghanistan...

JieJie··on U.S. clears way for antitrust inquiries of Nvidia, Microsoft and OpenAI
NYT Gift Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/technology/nvidia-microso...
JieJie··on Smoking weed every day makes me less presentable and less productive. I love it
Comments here are useful and on point for 20-30-year-olds. Pot makes boredom less boring, and that's probably not an ideal outcome for a young person.

With any luck, y'all are going to be 60 someday, or 80, and pot making boredom less boring is going to become your every waking thought, and staying awake all night is going to become a curse and no longer a superpower.

And cannabis is going to be there for you as an alternative to benzos and opiates, and it will be a good thing. Count on it.

JieJie··on GPT-4o
Absolutely. We're looking forward to Apple's announcements at WWDC this year, which analysts predict are right up that alley.
JieJie··on GPT-4o
We're planning on getting a phone-carrying lanyard and she will just carry her phone around her neck with Be My Eyes^0 looking out the rear camera, pointed outward. She's DeafBlind, so it'll be bluetoothed to her hearing aids, and she can interact with the world through the conversational AI.

I helped her access the video from the presentation, and it brought her to tears. Now, she can play guitar, and the AI and her can write songs and sing them together.

This is a big day in the lives of a lot of people whom aren't normally part of the conversation. As of today, they are.

0: https://www.bemyeyes.com/

JieJie··on Dean Ball on the new California AI bill
Jobs and Woz were computer criminals before they even started Apple.^0

0: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/02/the-d... (https://web.archive.org/web/20240402191558/https://www.theat...)

JieJie··on Congress Passed a Bill That Could Ban TikTok. Now Comes the Hard Part
Gift Article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/technology/tiktok-ban-bil...

JieJie··on Adobe is buying videos for $3 per minute to build AI model
Alternate non-paywalled link from MSN^0:

"The software company is offering its network of photographers and artists $120 to submit videos of people engaged in everyday actions such as walking or expressing emotions including joy and anger, according to documents seen by Bloomberg. The goal is to source assets for artificial intelligence training, the company wrote."

0: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/adobe-is-buying-videos...

JieJie··on Scaling will never get us to AGI
Marcus has a good point when he says that the scaling will only benefit in a logarithmic way, not in a linear way. I watched the Sora video as well and in the Q&A session, they admit that they will need a lot of data. Marcus' contention is that there isn't enough data on the internet and synthetic data will just result in errors.

Where Marcus gets it wrong is that he defines "right" as producing an algorithm that an AI will follow to get a deterministic result. So, every time Sora 2 (Gary's Version) produces a video of a glass shattering, it is the same shatter pattern being produced; and it must be a precise duplicate of a glass shattering in nature. That's Marcus' win situation, which Sora will unlikely ever reach.

Maybe transformer-based AI will never be capable of perfectly simulating reality in order to unlock its secrets. It seems to me that, according to the transformer-denialists, in order to create an AI that understands reality, we must fully understand reality first and then program the AI with that understanding.

In my mind, I imagine neural networks as drift-car drivers (I think of them as Ken_Block, Paul Walker would also be acceptable). Sure, your average drift-car driver has no idea how to solve a three-body equation algorithmically, but a great drift car driver can maneuver four spinning tires in a state of critical oversteer around a race track curve without the use of a calculator and get it right most every time.

And yes, race-car drivers have short lifespans, it's true. That's what terrifies Marcus so much about neural networks as well, and why he is so adamant that we listen to him when he says that there are dangerous curves ahead.

I personally would rather live in a world where there are Ken Blocks and Paul Walkers, and that's how I live my life (not in auto-racing, though) but I understand why that frightens people.

JieJie··on Schedule-Free Learning – A New Way to Train
My mistake. I misread the comment that it was looking for links to the included research and I went to find them.
JieJie··on Schedule-Free Learning – A New Way to Train
From the Related Work section (best guess):

Stochastic Weight Averaging (Izmailov et al 2018) https://arxiv.org/abs/1803.05407

Latest Weight Averaging (Kaddour 2022) https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.14981

Latest Weight Averaging? (Sanyal et al 2023) https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.16294

Cyclic Learning Rates (Portes et al 2022) https://arxiv.org/abs/2206.00832

Exponential Moving Average? (Zhanghan? et al 2019) https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.01804

JieJie··on Understanding and managing the impact of machine learning models on the web
You are correct to say that the distinction between fine and commercial art is beyond an artwork's practical utility, but I think we could both agree that the market price of art does not necessarily equate to its overall social value. That is what I was getting at. It's more about economic markets not capturing social value, and copyright's role in protecting economic value to the detriment of social value.

Outside the scope of my comment is whether copyright is even capable of protecting social value (I tend to think it isn't), but if it is, W3C should be the organization that steps up to make the attempt.

JieJie··on AI and the Problem of Knowledge Collapse
The discussion section is quite illuminating.

"While much recent attention has been on the problem of LLMs misleadingly presenting fiction as fact (hallucination), this may be less of an issue than the problem of representativeness across a distribution of possible responses. Hallucination of verifiable, concrete facts is often easy to correct for. Yet many real world questions do not have well-defined, verifiably true and false answers. If a user asks, for example, “What causes inflation?” and a LLM answers “monetary policy”, the problem isn’t one of hallucination, but of the failure to reflect the full-distribution of possible answers to the question, or at least provide an overview of the main schools of economic thought."

JieJie··on Understanding and managing the impact of machine learning models on the web
I hope your comment doesn't get downvoted too heavily, because I think you raise good points.

What seems to be happening, and is happening in this document by W3C as well, is that the social value of information and the economic value of information are being conflated. Social media has created markets for creative works where these two values become entangled.

Another way to say this is that commercial art and fine art are different things, but they are treated the same by the web and perhaps they shouldn't.

When someone creates fine art, they are not creating art for the sake of its economic value. They are creating a work of art for its social value, and want it distributed as widely as possible.

When someone creates commercial art, they are creating art specifically for its economic value. That value may be enhanced by wider distribution, but it may also be diluted by wider distribution.

Because these two types of art need to be treated differently by the web, we can't have one solution that benefits both kinds of art.

We need both copyright to protect commercial artworks, but we need a system that encourages wide distribution of the collective information of humanity, allowing equal weight to everyone's ideas, outside of their economic value.

i.e. Kafka's ideas are more valuable to humanity than Beavis and Butthead.

This W3C draft doesn't take that into account. It needs to. We need to think beyond the needs of artists who rely on social media to ply their wares, while also taking into account their needs. We should not, however, codify the social media influencer art market, because that is not a market worth protecting. It's an aberration that encourages people to share personal information and works that benefit the platforms and harms society. We want to build something that benefits society and the individuals who contribute artworks that benefit society today and into the future. And if you can find a way to make a buck in the middle there somewhere, we should encourage that, too.

JieJie··on Everything in our universe may be conscious, scientists say
Panpsychism is what you get if materialism can't be proven. Sure, maybe there is a neural correlate of consciousness, but there is no proof of it. If no neural (or perhaps quantum?) correlate can be found, it would perhaps fall on panpsychism as the default explanation.

These folks^0 put money on it, and panpsychism is winning so far.

0: https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2023/07/12/a-25-year-old-bet-on...

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