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He wrote a column a couple days before this paper. Linking the response as well.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-a...
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/we-know-enough-now-to-ac...
> I should have made clear that I think you have poor judgement if you think this is a good idea to use unverified healthcare data to base any decisions on that could cause people severe harm or the restriction of their rights.
Check out this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-fever-...
> Just last Saturday, Kinsa’s data indicated an unusual rise in fevers in South Florida, even though it was not known to be a Covid-19 epicenter. Within days, testing showed that South Florida had indeed become an epicenter.
You buried the lede a bit on your prior experience (that's significant context!) but I'm not advocating anything more than data collection in the interest of identifying mass trends and hotspots.
I also disagree that the US' current inept response means software engineers have a moral duty not to hand them any complicated information (if I understood you correctly) but am having a harder time phrasing that.
Edit: Oh you were calling me stupid because you thought researchers wouldn't understand the concept of self-reported medical data. Give them some credit.
I'm no good at writing copy, but I'd work on the homepage's phrasing. Link to https://healthweather.us/ as well as the NYT article on them, rather than making a reference to Maddow elsewhere (it'd be dumb for someone to be turned away by that, but someone will be.) Explain that CDC data lags three weeks behind historically, and point out all the counties without data. Say all this on the front page, and run A/B tests once you have enough visitors.
Again, great work!
But sure, let me actually respond to you:
* At no point have you acknowledged or shown any awareness that depression is not "one thing". Like how people discuss "curing cancer" as if that's any sort of meaningful statement. How complex do you think depression is? What point of complexity does something need to reach before you defer to experts? Depression is still more or less a black box (watch the Sapolsky video I linked or look up some starslatecodex articles on ketamine.) Again, no sign of awareness of this on your part, which suggests you haven't done the most basic research.
* Yep, you never said there are no biomarkers. You said:
> Depression is a set of guidelines in a book that ask vague subjective questions about how someone perceives the world. And then if the person decides you have it you have it. If they don't you dont. This has very little to do with the first scenario."
This was your reason for stating that depression wasn't an illness. That it was based on a list of subjective questions. Sadly you didn't respond to the person saying that this was equally true for schizophrenia. Is schizophrenia an illness?
* I said it was an undercurrent, meaning subtext. Do you understand why subtext can't be quoted, and why that's work that you need to do for yourself? (If you somehow can quote subtext, though, immediately switch careers to political journalism, you'll be a wonder.)
* The only really offensive part was when you said "I do also believe that people don't have zero agency in this problem." Like, cool, a few sentences in and you've also added in a complete strawman to make yourself look reasonable. So this was just debate club to you.
The last point, combined with the fact that you're only responding when it might let you feel superior, leads me to believe you're not here in any sort of attempt to learn. How's your own mental health? You're clearly get some need fulfilled by arguing on the internet, which generally isn't the best sign. Watch that video, it's good, and absolutely full of things you do not know.
Maybe you, some random person on Hacker News, are not in fact smarter than the medical consensus?
As someone who has been catatonically depressed for a couple years now, I'm not so sure about this! People with chronic pain also often can't identify any physical source, but obviously you would never start posting "is this really an illness though?" or "aren't we distracting and misleading people??" in a thread about that.
The undercurrent of your post is that depressed people need to snap out of it, and falling back on the "illness" label reduces personal responsibility. Trust me, many people feel like imposters claiming they have depression, despite being completely non-functional. Thanks but no thanks to this proposed contribution to the discourse.
Are you really here to understand, or is it just to judge? Want some MRIs and EKGs of depressed brains?
just kidding, same. it's hell.
"Google is pretty bad at creating products so no one is willing to pay for them"
doesn't track when facebook switched to gmail after giving up on microsoft exchange.
edit: also I work in ads, but won't bother responding to the "google just wants to manipulate dumb people" point. if you're starting from the assumption of malice I don't think the discussion would lead anywhere. and probably don't want to say more anyway, will delegate that to PR.
I can't find anything on this, does anyone have more info?
* Explicitly filters for people who do not want a work life balance. If a job applicant says they found your company via this list, you don't have to ask, "Will you regularly work more than 40 hours a week for free?" They just told you.
* No information on why these companies in particular are special (everyone has a strong market/team/growth)
* No disclaimers regarding conflicts of interest
* Trying to establish a brand for some reason
* Published anonymously
Hopefully I'm not being too cynical. Just seems very financially motivated.
Personally, my vote goes to the TV-B-Gone. It's a small device that runs through all the common IR codes for turning TVs off when you press a button. ThinkGeek sells them for $20, but the "hacker" version (http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...) runs for 50 cents less ;).
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_ariely_asks_are_we_in_control_o...
Look around 11:30 for a few examples of how comparing options affects us more than looking at each individually.
On a side note, it also seems inexpensive because it's $499 and not $500! Psychological pricing is one of my larger pet peeves...