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389dsf3479··on I was deceived about Covid vaccine safety
That's a quote by Dr. Peter Doshi, not the article. While it's not strictly true if he was referring the that study, the difference is tiny enough that it doesn't matter in my opinion. It wouldn't make any difference if you switched the groups.

Regardless, what relevant data is missing from the table? As far as I can tell, you can see all relevant data to determine both total deaths and Covid deaths from the table in the screenshot.

389dsf3479··on I was deceived about Covid vaccine safety
Where does the article say that Covid deaths were the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated groups? What relevant data is missing from the table?

As far as I can tell, the point is to show the tiny difference in this particular study between the vaccinated and placebo for both total deaths and Covid deaths. It does that, and looking at the original tables doesn't change anything of note, as far as I can see.

389dsf3479··on I was deceived about Covid vaccine safety
The discourse around the pandemic and the vaccines is extremely counterproductive. The choice to get vaccinated or not have become more about signalling allegiance to one of two political tribes, than about health. As someone who hates both tribes, I start to regret getting vaccinated whenever I read pro-vax arguments (including a lot of these comments), but I can then cure that regret by reading anti-vax arguments. Both are as devoid of relevant information as the other.
389dsf3479··on I was deceived about Covid vaccine safety
If anyone is going to "get us all killed", it's people like you who are needlessly politicizing the pandemic.
389dsf3479··on I was deceived about Covid vaccine safety
> The stats in favor of vaccines take a sentence to explain (like “of the 1000 people with the vaccine 2 died, vs the 1000 people with placebo, 187 died”)

Are those real numbers?

At least according to table S26. Death summary in Blinded Phase (https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2113017/suppl_f...) it should be “of the 15184 people with the vaccine 16 died, vs the 15162 people with placebo, 16 died”. Unless I'm mistaken.