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This site (edit: I mean the site of the current URL) seems to have stolen the content and contains no attribution. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/turing-papers-tha... has the story, so we changed to that, but its paywall seems worse than what HN will tolerate, so we put it back. This is unsatisfactory.

Can anyone suggest a better URL?

Edit: Sorry, it seems I got this wrong and the original post was just fine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8993631. (That might mean it was other sites ripping off MKWeb and not the other way around. So I'm glad we didn't change the URL after all.)

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When you say "this site", please include the actual site that you are referring to (edit: like "mkweb.co.uk", rather than "this site" or "the site of the current URL"). It is hard for others to tell if a comment like this is actually referring to the current article, or it has subsequently been changed. Edit: this applies to people other than mods here too. In general, if discussing the title or some aspect of whether the correct source was used for the news story in question, please quote the title or include the name of the site you are referring to, as otherwise a subsequent change by the moderators can make your comment nonsensical.

As a note: I really wish that HN would include a history of title and/or link changes for an article, so that when you go to a thread an people are complaining about some problem with one of them (or are reading the article with an interpretation based on the old title), it becomes easier to tell what they were referring to by checking against the history. As it is, in a large number of the cases in which a title or link is changed, a large portion of the discussion no longer makes sense as it was referring to the old title and/or link.

Agreed. Later, if dang gets his better url, his comment might read "17 hours ago" "the site of the current url" and we'll be thinking some proper source ripped off the content.

All of the solutions are sub-optimal, but preserving a history would be nice, at least.

We wouldn't change the URL again without updating my comment about the URL change.

humans err. it's why we have version control. but good to know your intentions

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4340369.ece ... has a few paragraphs with a link for "more photos". Sadly, also paywall protected.

They're sister papers, i.e. News Corp / Murdoch / Fox News.

http://www.mkweb.co.uk/pictures/8203-BLETCHLEY-PARK-Alan-Tur...

That's the current URL, which appears to have copied the content without attribution.

Are you sure it's not the original? MKWeb is quite a local paper for Bletchley Park.

Wow, thanks. That was a pattern-matching failure on my part—it looked like the sites we frequently see which rip content off, and the "MK" in "MKWeb" escaped me completely.

Sorry to the good people of Milton Keynes and their fine local paper!

If you go and drive round a roundabout three times in penance, they will forgive you.

Haha, I'm sure they won't mind :) I figured that was exactly the thought process, too! "MKWeb" doesn't immediately sound like a reputable source ;)

It probably isn't usually, anyway!

Source: I grew up with MK as my local city.

seems to be moving into MSM https://gigaom.com/2015/02/03/alan-turing-documents-used-to-...

Would this do? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934358/How-chilly-s...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/turing-papers-tha...

Protip: Paste URL into Google Search, click result.

No paywall.

Same works with a lot of news sites that don't show paywalls on search traffic, but do on other referrals.

Thanks, it works.

Here is a URL from the search result:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

When I click on this link, I am presented with a "sign-up" page.

""" YOU'VE REACHED A SUBSCRIBER-ONLY ARTICLE. Would you like to become a subscriber for 50% less for the first 12 weeks?* Sign up now and access the full breadth of The Australian's content in minutes. """

I get the paywall for that as well.

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