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brymaster

Admit what defeat? What an odd thing to say - as if posting on HN is some sort of battleground.

Anyway, for years apps have been collecting user data without interference.

My point still stands. Apple can't protect users on their own platform. Keep those blinders on, I guess.

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Your point was

> NOTHING about Apple's 'curated, controlled' approach [that of having a closed source operating system] protects users

Definitely shifted goal posts.

Unrelated: you've said nothing to support this point anywhere throughout this thread.

> Unrelated: you've said nothing to support this point anywhere throughout this thread.

That's not true.

Everywhere people talk is a battleground, called "civil, reasoned debate." One of the rules of that battleground is that when someone pokes a hole in the evidence you've used to draw your audience toward a conclusion, you can't put new evidence in its place to support the same argument; you have to make an entirely new argument, because the new evidence might lead you somewhere entirely else when looked at on its own.

> you can't put new evidence in its place to support the same argument

Nah, no where did that happen. It's just hard for some people to handle truths and make connections.

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