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Comment by robrorcroptrer | Hacker News Reader

Is this not true for everything then? All cloud services, all Internet providers, everything within M365, OneDrive and Databricks?

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Claude is different from S3. AWS doesn’t need to rifle through your files to stay ahead of the competition or to mine them for business ideas because the core business is overvalued and rapidly commoditizing. AI labs, on the other hand, have an incentive to exploit every last drop of data they can lay their ethically challenged hands on. And they’ve already demonstrated that they will do this, even when it involves blatant fiduciary violations (see eg, Anthropic / Figma board member scandal).

I have never heard of a cloud service of ISP actively taking corporate data and shoving it into other users inbox. If my company has a proprietary solution to a math problem that nobody else knows about but the AI service that we have been working with has access to it and Billy Main Competitor ALSO has that service and asks "how would one solve this math problem" the second the AI spills the beans, the suits in the c-suit would lose it and sue the AI.

If however, our internal IT group didn't read the manual correctly and set up our cloud service access parameters incorrectly so that anyone who was trying to probe our defenses could access the formula, Jim from IT is looking for a new job.

See the difference?

> I have never heard of a cloud service of ISP actively taking corporate data and shoving it into other users inbox.

You'd never hear about if it the cloud service was taking your corporate data and using it for countless other things though. Insider trading, selling leads to your competitors, pushing ads to your clients/customers with offers of their own products, using trends in what your company and others are doing to guide development of their own products and services. Done carefully, you'd never be able to trace any of it back to them and it'd take a whistleblower for you to find out it happened in the first place.

I don't imagine any cloud service that has massive amounts of data which could easily make them a ton of money is just ignoring it.

The burden of proof is on you.

I doubt they want to risk their reputation, trust and agreements to make money in the ways you describe.

Corporations are amoral psychopaths that don't care about anything except getting more money and power. We have countless examples of them lying, violating the law, and even murdering large numbers of people (including babies) to get it. What makes you think a corporation would ever choose their "reputation, trust and agreements" over money and power?

Encryption?

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