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"Employment" is not intrinsically valuable. It is an emergent property of one way of thinking about economic systems.

That’s the most HN reply ever. Obtuse and pedantic.

Tell a struggling undergrad or unemployed that “employment” is not intrinsically valuable, maybe they’ll be able to use the rhetoric to move a couple positions higher in a soup kitchen queue before their food coupons expire.

For employment I mean "WHATEVER LEADS TO REWARD COLLECTIVE HUMANS TO SURVIVE".

Call it as you wish, but I am certainly not talking about coding values.

I'm struggling to even parse the syntax of "WHATEVER LEADS TO REWARD COLLECTIVE HUMANS TO SURVIVE", but assuming that you're talking about resource allocation, my answer is UBI or something similar to it. We only need to "reward" for action when the resources are scarce, but when resources are plentiful, there's no particular reason not to just give them out.

I know it's "easier to imagine an end to the world than an end to capitalism", but to quote another dreamer: "Imagine all the people sharing all the world".

Except resources won't be plentiful for a long while since AI is only impacting the service sector. You can't eat a service, you can't live in one. SAAS will get very cheap though...

Robotics has been advancing very quickly recently. If we solve long-term AI action planning, I don't see any limitation to making it embodied.

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