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Can it create employment? How is this making life better. I understand the achievement but come on, wouldn´t it be something to show if you created employment for 10000 people using your 20000 USD!

Microsoft, OpenAI, Anthropic, XAI, all solving the wrong problems, your problems not the collective ones.

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"Employment" is not intrinsically valuable. It is an emergent property of one way of thinking about economic systems.

That’s the most HN reply ever. Obtuse and pedantic.

Tell a struggling undergrad or unemployed that “employment” is not intrinsically valuable, maybe they’ll be able to use the rhetoric to move a couple positions higher in a soup kitchen queue before their food coupons expire.

For employment I mean "WHATEVER LEADS TO REWARD COLLECTIVE HUMANS TO SURVIVE".

Call it as you wish, but I am certainly not talking about coding values.

I'm struggling to even parse the syntax of "WHATEVER LEADS TO REWARD COLLECTIVE HUMANS TO SURVIVE", but assuming that you're talking about resource allocation, my answer is UBI or something similar to it. We only need to "reward" for action when the resources are scarce, but when resources are plentiful, there's no particular reason not to just give them out.

I know it's "easier to imagine an end to the world than an end to capitalism", but to quote another dreamer: "Imagine all the people sharing all the world".

Except resources won't be plentiful for a long while since AI is only impacting the service sector. You can't eat a service, you can't live in one. SAAS will get very cheap though...

Robotics has been advancing very quickly recently. If we solve long-term AI action planning, I don't see any limitation to making it embodied.

Didn't you hear? We're heading towards a workless utopia where everything will be free (according to people who are actively working to eliminate things like food assistance for less fortunate mothers and children.)

Who are some of those people?

Obviously a human in the loop is always needed and this technology that is specifically trained to excel at all cognitive tasks that humans are capable of will lead to infinite new jobs being created. /s

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