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In a Louis Rossmann video (i think it was the one on food delivery guys on e-bikes) he mentions never tipping in app but leaving a note that says he will give a cash tip if the driver brings the food straight to his door. That seems like a decent compromise as it doesn't let the app take a cut from the tip and makes so the driver actually goes the extra mile to 'deserve' the tip.

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Weirdly on Reddit I keep getting the doordash and ubereats communities pushed at me - there is a very strong view amongst people using these apps that anyone who says they will "give a cash tip" will not actually do it, so it's probably not as beneficial as you might think.

The tips on the apps nominally do go entirely to the driver.

>* but leaving a note that says he will give a cash tip if the driver brings the food straight to his door.*

Why, where else would they take the food? Leave in at the patio? Drop it on the lawn?

About half the time I order UberEats I get a call from the driver that they're here and to come downstairs because they won't enter my apartment building. Could be laziness, it could also be because the street parking is always full and so the only place to park close by is a fire hydrant.

The app has different options for meeting in the lobby / come to my unit and I always select my unit, but whatever, I get why they might not do that.

Leaving it on the porch, on the street closest to their car, with the front lobby in an apartment building...

There's quite a lot of places people will think to leave food if they're rushing to pick up another job.

Some people live in multi-tenant buildings where "your door" is not the buildings entrance.

In (other country) they do bring it to your door, even if it's the 6th floor of an apartment building

Thank you for this tip on analog defense against digital dark patterns!

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