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The Ruby on Rails community had stuff like this what, 18 years ago?

That’s funny, because Rails is the one big framework that does not have a framework level hosting provider. Wordpress has it, Nextjs has it and now Laravel has it. There is no Rails equivalent.

Did you forget about Heroku? It started life as a Ruby and Rails hosting provider in what, 2007?

Yeah, I’m very familiar with them. But they never really were a framework specific platform or at least did not go in that direction very long. Now they are explicitly a framework agnostic PaaS.

They were Ruby only for years...

Like, we had Rails and could deploy to Heroku before Nodejs even existed...

It was strictly RoR for a long time

being language or framework specific is not make sense either, do you rather have bussiness that tied to 1 framework userbase vs multiple framework supported platform????

like its no brainer

Not really. While I prefer rails’ stance of “you can’t pay me for my open source”, laravel having a commercial model around developer tooling made them at least more responsive to their community’s dx wishes.

Still, for me, having a fully open source first party tool like kamal is much better than a commercial offering, no matter how convenient it may be.

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