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The Laravel developer ecosystem is unmatched.

The Ruby on Rails community had stuff like this what, 18 years ago?

That’s funny, because Rails is the one big framework that does not have a framework level hosting provider. Wordpress has it, Nextjs has it and now Laravel has it. There is no Rails equivalent.

Did you forget about Heroku? It started life as a Ruby and Rails hosting provider in what, 2007?

Yeah, I’m very familiar with them. But they never really were a framework specific platform or at least did not go in that direction very long. Now they are explicitly a framework agnostic PaaS.

They were Ruby only for years...

Like, we had Rails and could deploy to Heroku before Nodejs even existed...

It was strictly RoR for a long time

being language or framework specific is not make sense either, do you rather have bussiness that tied to 1 framework userbase vs multiple framework supported platform????

like its no brainer

Not really. While I prefer rails’ stance of “you can’t pay me for my open source”, laravel having a commercial model around developer tooling made them at least more responsive to their community’s dx wishes.

Still, for me, having a fully open source first party tool like kamal is much better than a commercial offering, no matter how convenient it may be.

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