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Nvidia is also clearly differentiating the 5090 as the gaming card for people who want the best and an extra thousand dollars is a rounding error. They could have sold it for $1500 and still made big coin, but no doubt the extra $500 is pure wealth tax.

It probably serves to make the 4070 look reasonably priced, even though it isn't.

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Gaming enthusiasts didn't beat an eye at 4090 price and won't beat one there either.

4090 was already priced for high income (in first world countries) people. Nvidia saw 4090s were being sold on second hand market way beyond 2k. They merely milking the cow.

Double the bandwidth, double the ram, double the pins, and double the power isn't cheap. I wouldn't be surprised if the profit on the 4090 was less than the 4080, especially since any R&D costs will be spread over significantly less units.

There have been numerous reports over the years that the 4090 actually outsold the 4080.

The 4080 was also quite the bad value compared to the much better 4090. That remains to be seen for the 5000 series.

The 4080 was designed as a strawman card expressly to drive sales towards the 4090. So this is by design.

Leaks indicate that the PCB has 14 layers with a 512-bit memory bus. It also has 32GB of GDDR7 memory and the die size is expected to be huge. This is all expensive. Would you prefer that they had not made the card and instead made a lesser card that was cheaper to make to avoid the higher price? That is the AMD strategy and they have lower prices.

That PCB is probably a few dollars per unit. The die is probably the same as the one in the 5070. I've no doubt it's an expensive product to build, but that doesn't mean the price is cost plus markup.

Currently, the 5070 is expected to use the GB205 die while the 5090 is expected to use the GB202 die:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5070.c4218

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5090.c4216

It is unlikely that the 5070 and 5090 share the same die when the 4090 and 4080 did not share same die.

Also, could an electrical engineer estimate how much this costs to manufacture:

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pcb-leak...

Is the last link wrong? It doesn't mention cost.

The PCB cost did not leak. We need an electrical engineer to estimate the cost based on what did leak.

>That PCB is probably a few dollars per unit.

It’s not. 14L PCB are expensive. When I looked at Apple cost for their PCB it was probably closer to $50, and they have smaller area

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