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I get ads in my youtube premium music. The support just said "yes".

I now pay for spotify so I don't get ads in music and still youtube premium for no ads in youtube documentaries. The second I start seeing regular ads I'll drop dropping them as fast as I can clickety click.

In a fury, I also managed to cancel all of our work google accounts. Only a few hundred but if enough do maybe someone at google might look up from their leetcode puzzle and listen to a customer.

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There’s no chance anyone at google will ever listen to a customer.

Their end users aren't the customer. Of course they won't listen to them.

Their customers are the ones that pay for ads and buys end user data.

They're not the customer they're the product, their customer is clients who purchase advertisement space.

> They're not the customer they're the product

If you are a free Gmail/YouTube/etc user, sure. But a company who pays for a couple hundred Google Mail users is definitely a customer:

> I also managed to cancel all of our work google accounts.

> But a company who pays for a couple hundred Google Mail users is definitely a customer:

I see your point

But I think it should say: "But a company who pays for a couple hundred Google Mail users is a sucker"

Why so? You don't see ads in Google's enterprise products. The GP cancelled their business subscription because of an issue with their personal account. Also it's a very good product and the competition is Microsoft, which is not much better.

As a paying YouTube Premium subscriber, they damn well better consider me a customer.

You are a customer who bought then advertising space to keep it blank.

I get ads on Premium Spotify while listening to Joe Rogan. Serves me right, I guess.

There were always ads on podcasts, Spotify Premium never promised no ads for podcasts.

You’ll have fun with the occasional „recommendation“ pop-ups Spotify shows to paying subscribers. Did you know you can pay them to rank higher in the algorithm and that a lot of the big playlists do the same?

> Did you know you can pay them to rank higher in the algorithm

I can't find this info on Spotify for Artists, care to share where exactly they offer this service?

It’s called discovery mode: https://artists.spotify.com/discovery-mode

Luckily, I don't really find a lot of the recommendations bad. Maybe it's my bad taste in music.

Spotify is actively trying to enshittify the podcast ecosystem, so you’ve jumped from one bad actor to another.

I’ve found that Apple Music and Tidal are both superior to it anyway (and you can automatically move your library between those three services, and more).

I prefer Tidal because the recommendations are ridiculously good for niche genres. I think they take things like producers, labels, etc into account.

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