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I now pay for spotify so I don't get ads in music and still youtube premium for no ads in youtube documentaries. The second I start seeing regular ads I'll drop dropping them as fast as I can clickety click.
In a fury, I also managed to cancel all of our work google accounts. Only a few hundred but if enough do maybe someone at google might look up from their leetcode puzzle and listen to a customer.
If you are a free Gmail/YouTube/etc user, sure. But a company who pays for a couple hundred Google Mail users is definitely a customer:
> I also managed to cancel all of our work google accounts.
I see your point
But I think it should say: "But a company who pays for a couple hundred Google Mail users is a sucker"
Their customers are the ones that pay for ads and buys end user data.
I can't find this info on Spotify for Artists, care to share where exactly they offer this service?
I’ve found that Apple Music and Tidal are both superior to it anyway (and you can automatically move your library between those three services, and more).
I prefer Tidal because the recommendations are ridiculously good for niche genres. I think they take things like producers, labels, etc into account.
The headline (YouTube Premium Showing Ads) makes it sound like if you pay for YouTube Premium you are now getting ads in videos just like normal YouTube, but maybe a little less, but this does not seem to be the case.
i would say it is pretty dicey in that https://www.youtube.com/premium has "ad-free" in various places but then also has varying almost-definitions of it. I would not be surprised if the TOS has an ever-changing definition of what "ad-free" means, subject to change whenever the provider wants
Or possibly it's attempt at degrading no-ad's to less-ad's. Would be quite standard for degrading-in-progress company - "altavisting" :)
if you got rid of ads completely, people would expect to never see an ad, ever.
https://colemaninsights.com/coleman-insights-blog/advertisin...
Everything eventually ends up as paying + ads. Cable TV started out justifying the $35/mo fee 2 ways: better picture quality and no ads (only local channels had ads). Now you pay for channels, bundles, and you get ads. The Internet is and will be exactly the same.
It just has no killer features. Once it will have that one, https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+people+use+ad+block...
But I think it’s an empty threat. Google cannot really do anything with it without hurting itself. It will lose all arms races because anti-ads anti-drm community incentives are high and will remain so. “Annoying the whole humanity even more” isn’t an easy business model.
slipstreaming the ads into the content stream itself
All that energy only for a user to see a black rectangle rendered over a video by sponsorblock.
1) There is no tracking done, my privacy is not violated
2) At least the YouTuber is willing to debase themselves for the ad.
My main gripe for blocking ads is privacy and in-video segments where the presenter says stuff does not violate my privacy.
Is that support rep implying that we won't get extra ads on top of our ad-free experience if we opt out of ad personalization google-wide?
1) doesn’t remove in-feed/sponsored ads
2) can occasionally still show you ads (seen it myself)
On iOS with YouTube premium, I get a button prompt asking if I want to skip a commonly skipped sections.
9/10 it’s the sponsor read. The remaining 1/10 is patreon
I haven’t seen much about it so I’m not sure if im in an A/B test
...so people who don't want ads are marketed to by cable TV companies, and invited to pay a subscription for TV with no ads, because _all_ the program's funding comes from subscribers
...and then either the cable TV people get greedy and start adding ads to programs already 100% funded by subscribers
...or the program makers get greedy and cut product-placement deals to get extra money on top of their 100% funding from subscribers
In either of these situations, subscribers can rightly ask: why the fuck did I agree to fund these people? They promised me no ads if I pay, and they've added ads.
The answer is: don't pay, make them lose revenue, and either they will respect the promises they made to subscribers, or they will abandon it completely and go back to free-to-air with ads, or they'll go bankrupt (or they'll keep conning people, and some portion of suckers will always fall for the "no ads! oh hey, i started adding ads to your no ads subscription, hope you like it! ka-ching!" approach, and they'll get by on duplicity)
If you are using an adblocker or just watching for free, fair-enough, the ad can be baked-in into the stream, but when you just bought a movie and in the middle of the movie there is an ad, this is infuriating.
I don't mind sponsor segments. Multiple unskippable ads in a row that have nothing to do with the topic are infuriating.
Youtube Win application with adblocking and sponsored content skip implemented + many other twraks like disabling recommended videos, autoplay or show dislikes. No need for google account, you can still subscribe.
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(I've never used YouTube Premium so I'm just assuming that it has a similar home page and suggestion format).
If I notice anything resembling an ad I'm out. If I pay for a product I expect no ads - end of story, no exceptions.
I used to use adblock, sponsorblock, others, but still the youtube random garbage and ads for asian/russian brides and latest disposable Chinese garbage resellers. Finally the US election nonsense got me to switch to using Freetube for any youtubing. I'm far less annoyed by it now, less doom-scrolling, I forget it's youtube all together without everything I hated about it. All content, no filler.
Do yourself a favor and set up Freetube, stop paying for (or just watching even) commercials.
like cable, youtube premium will eventually be 20 minutes/hour of ads
it is inevitable
Or is it like the free users see 40min/hour ads and the premium users see 20min/hour? But then why wouldn't they just let me pay extra to see 0min/hour? Like that's what Prime Video did. It ended up just being a price increase in their case.
> the most valuable customers are those that will pay not to see ads
Yes like me, but the point is, I would always be willing to pay them more not to see ads than they would've ever made from me watching the ads in the first place.
that was the point of cable.
Regular TV over the airwaves was "free", supported by the ads, but you could pay cable providers for their "premium" channels that had no advertising.
Until they did. Just a few at first, but it went on from there, as these things always do.
edit: I didn't even notice the second part of your message:
> I would always be willing to pay them more not to see ads than they would've ever made from me watching the ads in the first place.
This plus infinite gullibility is the only reason why they have a business model. They will keep making it worse and worse and still raising the price forever, and it's only because people keep handing them more money whenever they ask.
> This plus infinite gullibility is the only reason why they have a business model. They will keep making it worse and worse and still raising the price forever, and it's only because people keep handing them more money whenever they ask.
That's a separate argument, the assumption was that they will no longer give you that option, to pay for ad-free YouTube and I still don't see that happening.
But also yes obviously, eventually everyone who is willing to pay for premium is paying but they still have to make more profit so they going to raise prices indefinitely. Duh.
You cannot afford it. There’s an advertiser willing to pay more than your net worth on a campaign.
It was called "broadcast television".
https://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/11/us/advertisers-look-close...
Anyway, we now have a fire stick that lives in our luggage.
Of course now that they are adults I get the blame for their having missed out the cultural touchstone that was apparently Sponge Bob Squarepants.
Although, I prefer not to be reminded they will grow up. I would freeze time if I could.
I try to see it as an opportunity for creators and entrepreneurs.
The fact that there are things in the world worth financially supporting does not excuse capitalism.
It does not mean that we cannot find better ways of organising our affairs to have happy fulfilling lives.