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While you pay for an ad-free experience, it:

1) doesn’t remove in-feed/sponsored ads

2) can occasionally still show you ads (seen it myself)

1) is like being mad that you payed for an ad-free ebay experience, but then you used it to buy some old magazines and there were ads in them.

I think it's more like being annoyed at OTA television programs which are interrupted by ads put there by the broadcasters, because none of the funding comes from viewers/subscribers, it's all from ads

...so people who don't want ads are marketed to by cable TV companies, and invited to pay a subscription for TV with no ads, because _all_ the program's funding comes from subscribers

...and then either the cable TV people get greedy and start adding ads to programs already 100% funded by subscribers

...or the program makers get greedy and cut product-placement deals to get extra money on top of their 100% funding from subscribers

In either of these situations, subscribers can rightly ask: why the fuck did I agree to fund these people? They promised me no ads if I pay, and they've added ads.

The answer is: don't pay, make them lose revenue, and either they will respect the promises they made to subscribers, or they will abandon it completely and go back to free-to-air with ads, or they'll go bankrupt (or they'll keep conning people, and some portion of suckers will always fall for the "no ads! oh hey, i started adding ads to your no ads subscription, hope you like it! ka-ching!" approach, and they'll get by on duplicity)

Yes! When you watch a YouTube video, a part of your subscription directly goes to the YouTube creator, so you are actually paying for this content.

If you are using an adblocker or just watching for free, fair-enough, the ad can be baked-in into the stream, but when you just bought a movie and in the middle of the movie there is an ad, this is infuriating.

Not really? As the watcher I don't really care whether 2 minutes into the video it gets interrupted for 30s to tell me about square space or the video keeps playing and the host is telling me about square space for 30s. The only difference is who is doing the taking. If I'm paying for the ad-free experience I want an ad-free experience

My hypothetical ebay guy says the exact same thing. "If I'm paying for the ad-free experience I want an ad-free experience." Why is he being unreasonable and you're not?

Because eBay doesn't sell an ad-free premium version that removes ads but then still shows me sponsored ads as soon as I click on a listing or a seller's page. Neither does eBay intercept packages after you've made a purchase to drop their own ad flyers inside, or offer a premium tier that does prevent them from inserting an "eBay recommends square space for all your website building needs" flyer, but you end up with a "monkeybusiness78 recommends square space..." flyer in your package anyway

You're correct, they don't. My example was a hypothetical analogy. If they did and you paid for them to stop... would you also expect them to also censor the magazine ads? I don't think you would.

https://sponsor.ajay.app/ Sponsor skip

While #1 is definitely pedantic, YouTube has added a 'Jump Ahead' button that allows you to skip content that a majority of users have skipped. This usually lines up with sponsor segments.

I think the main problem is with 2) since 1 is entirely up to the content creator's discretion.

I will not be surprised if YouTube figures out a way to make content creators pay a portion of their sponsored content.

They’re already going after sponsor reads.

On iOS with YouTube premium, I get a button prompt asking if I want to skip a commonly skipped sections.

9/10 it’s the sponsor read. The remaining 1/10 is patreon

I haven’t seen much about it so I’m not sure if im in an A/B test

Didn't Twitch try to do this?

The backlash from Twitch's attempt may well be why Youtube isn't doing it

To solve #1, you could use the Sponsorblock extension; it still works with YT premium. I don't since sponsor segments are skippable and I make a little game about guessing the exact amount of time to skip forward. Some creators are even kind enough to put timecodes there (but that feels like cheating).

I don't mind sponsor segments. Multiple unskippable ads in a row that have nothing to do with the topic are infuriating.

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