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I miss this so much in chats, even right now when typing this comment. It's too bad that return and enter ended up being the same thing in most applications.

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Most chat apps that send on enter (ex: Slack, Discord, Element) will accept Shift+Enter to move to the next line.

The functionality should be the other way around though.

Surely I want the modifier on the irreversible send action?

slack very helpfully reverses the order when u are in format-as-code (triple backticks) mode, giving you the worst of both worlds: it's usually enter to send, AND you can get confused about which is which!

(there's a preference to turn this off but then I forget if I've turned it off...as with most things, discord does this better & simply prohibits sending when u are inside an unclosed code block)

Slack and chatgpt behaviors here are regular reminders to me of "using tech still sucks for the [non-nerds]". I'm pretty resilient to these whoopsies and just live with it...

Teams does the discord thing mentioned in another comment, helpfully! But I swear getting into code/format blocks in Teams only works sometimes (phase of the moon?)

My company's internal GPT changes the ChatGPT enter behavior, which I definitely appreciated the forethought of.

Because nerds will not tolerate them at all?

I wish... as a nerd, slack et al is a pretty miserable experience.

Current version of slack treats Enter identical in both triple-back-tick mode and normal edit mode.

It's a user setting; I'm reasonably sure the default is as the previous poster described it, because I remember having to change it when a new account was set up for me last month (could be mistaken, but reasonably sure-ish I'm not).

I'd be interested in knowing where that's set up - I'm a member of a large number of Slack Servers from various groups, people, companies - going back to 2017.

All of them demonstrate correct ``` behavior.

Slack allows you to set this as your preference. I turned it on so that control enter Will post.

Did that after I posted too many things by accident

Sending a single-line message is much more common than wanting to add multiple lines.

Jupyter notebooks, by contrast, will enter a newline when you hit Enter, and will run the cell on Shift + Enter.

Yeah, this brought me back to the days of AIM and constantly having a "3" at the end of my messages (and people asking why) because I was pressing the Enter key on the numpad to send my messages (and sometimes accidentally hitting the 3), rather than the Return key which would add a newline into my message! The distinction was actually a good thing, looking back. Can't even guess how many messages I've erroneously sent in recent years when actually trying to jump to a new line in the text I'm drafting...

shift-enter would also work for adding a newline into your messages, IIRC. It still works that way in many apps.

Often! Then there's Google Sheets, where a new line is Alt-Enter, and pressing Shift-Enter actually bumps you to the vertically-prior cell. haha :(

Yup I miss it to. I remember when Tweetie came along on the Mac and switched the convention. I tried to have the author fix it to no avail.

It's really bad in the default ChatGPT 4o app: I keep posting by mistake my "question" although it's not done yet, so I get non-sensical and slow babbling which I have to interrupt.

Yeah, wish I could still assign it to different hardware keys instead of it being relegated to an implementation detail that differs depending on what application I happen to be using or even which field I have highlighted in a particular application. It's maddening.

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