What purpose did the lower-right Enter key serve on original Mac 128k keyboard?
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Surely I want the modifier on the irreversible send action?
(there's a preference to turn this off but then I forget if I've turned it off...as with most things, discord does this better & simply prohibits sending when u are inside an unclosed code block)
Teams does the discord thing mentioned in another comment, helpfully! But I swear getting into code/format blocks in Teams only works sometimes (phase of the moon?)
My company's internal GPT changes the ChatGPT enter behavior, which I definitely appreciated the forethought of.
I wish... as a nerd, slack et al is a pretty miserable experience.
All of them demonstrate correct ``` behavior.
Did that after I posted too many things by accident
You know, with Jobs, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him.
Would the Wii have done as well with motion controlled games if defaulting to a playstation style controller was doable out of the box? How many pieces of old software and technology stay around despite better modern replacements because defaulting to the familiar original is easier?
Not everything new is obviously better, and new doesn't mean it should necessarily replace what came before. But new needs dedication to giving it a fair shake, and sometimes that requires going all in on the new and making going back to the old difficult.
You can focus on the one thing that aggravates you, or your can focus on everything that he got done during the arc of his career. Like it or not, he helped define today's world of computing.
And, despite years of complaints, Apple pettily refused to address this even when physical media became obsolete and freed up the Eject key. They made this into... a baffling "lock" key or something if I remember correctly.
And even worse... when Eject existed, Apple put a HARDWARE delay on it; so you couldn't even remap it to be Delete. Why impose an insurmountable delay on an Eject key? Were people being killed by accidentally-ejected CDs? And if so, why didn't Apple simply make Eject a Delete key, with Eject being a secondary function accessible only with a modifier key... solving two problems at once?
Nor is this combo marked on the keyboard, so most people don't know about it. They end up arrowing across characters and then backspacing them away, or using the mouse for everything.
And finally: The point about the Eject key stands.
Another I miss (that Apple didn't have either) making the same distinction is Next/Previous instead of overloading Tab.
Now everyone but Apple uses "Enter".
[1] Chromebooks today have revived this tradition and have arrow-only enter keys.
Nowadays, I get "WTF" faces whenever I go down to the office supply store and ask them where they have their typewriter ribbon cartridges.
It's like Floppy Disk for the Save button, except Return didn't have the cultural weight behind it.
Manual typewriters had an arm that did both as you dragged it.
IBM 3270 terminals were screen/form based, not line based.
So the "Enter" key was "Submit this screen/form".
"Return" was "I'm typing in a multiline text element and I want to go to the next line".
They also had separate "forward/back" to move between input areas of the screen, which was not "tab/backtab".
You don't have to be all that old. I had a job in 1995 where I was the only person in the building with a computer, while everyone else (30ish people) had typewriters.
People like to believe the computer revolution happened overnight. It didn't. Businesses didn't suddenly throw away all of their equipment and employees in one day.
So, "really" old by practical standards.
Incidentally, I'm 35 years old and I know how to handle a typewriter thanks to my late mother. Even in this day and age, some things are done quicker and easier by just busting out a typewriter out of the closet.
On IBM PC keyboards, the key had got overloaded with two functions: Return and Enter. From the IBM Model F AT forwards, the key typically carried a legend for each function: an angled arrow that means "Return", and the textual legend "Enter".
IBM keyboards for non-PC platforms, such as Model M keyboards for terminals had separate Return and Enter keys. The Return key had only the arrow. The "Enter" key was a small key on the bottom row.
BTW. There is also a similar common misconception for the Tab and Back-Tab symbols, which IBM terminal keyboards sometimes also had separate keys for.
On line based serial consoles, like interacting with a PDP or VAX (common in the era), you would be emulating a teletype. Return is short for "carriage return", physically moving the cursor to the head of the next line. In use cases such as that, enter doesn't matter as much.
However, on many IBM computers, where the UI is form based (not line by line serial as many expect): return is for new lines only or moving to the next form field, and enter is for submitting the whole form as is.
You still see return vs enter on modern keyboards, usually in the numpad area.
TLDR: it was probably considered a necessary function key for interacting with non-macintosh computers, a substantial use-case in the 80s
I had one spreadsheet program that would move the cursor down one row on [RETURN], while [ENTER] performed the calculation (and recalculated any associated cells).
Another spreadsheet program used [RETURN] for a newline, and [ENTER] would recalculate the entire spreadsheet.
You could triple click a line or select a range of text containing shell commands and hit the key to run.
I do miss that as I had a scrapbook page of useful scripts.