Does he really think he’s better known than, say, Lebron James or Lionel Messi?
Does he really think he’s better known than, say, Lebron James or Lionel Messi?
I get what you’re saying, but I think it’s a limited viewpoint, just as mine is.
If you restrict the audience to Americans, we can use this YouGov survey: https://today.yougov.com/ratings/international/fame/all-time... The most famous millennial is currently either Beyonce (#6, a borderline millennial) or Taylor Swift (#14). Zuckerberg is well behind them at #99.
Had Messi not joined the US league and Apple bought the right I would not be surprised if half of the Americans dont know him. There also plenty of people around the world who simply dont watch Football, at least actively.
I just asked two people not in tech >60 who Zuckerberg is and they both knew him. But, I mean, they still read the newspaper, so I guess they're out of touch, as well.
That's what matters for worldwide popularity total.
I'd bet on some singer or actor / actress being the most well known globally.
There's always a possibility that it's some Chinese / Indian person that is completely unknown outside their own country, but because of that country's size still ends up "the most well-known"
I'm willing to bet it's Mia Khalifa
Conflating the two would imply that, for example, Phil Knight is one of the best known people in the world because of the ubiquity of his company, Nike. That’s obviously not the case.
Based on this email, Zuckerberg seems to have an exaggerated sense of just how well-known he personally is.
Zuck's name recognition isn't yet at the Bill Gates or Taylor Swift level, but he's already beyond what even top athletes of the current generation can hope for.
Sure, but I don't see how that equates to more people knowing about Zuck. Lots of Meta users neither know nor care who he is. Outside of business and tech I almost never see his name or face pop up.
Lebron on the other hand is all over the place. I have zero interest in the NBA but could easily pick him out of a lineup.
I don't know how you can say this with a straight face. Yours is an absurdly niche viewpoint! I swear, sometimes this forum is like Marie Antoinette.
No, it's not. Did you really think baseball was the most popular sport in America? I was talking about where I live (Taiwan).
Also, it's a safe bet that more than 1.5 billion people just between India and China have heard of Zuck given how often he's been front page media in both countries.
From another of your comments, it sounds like you're middle class. Or, at least, a working class American which is quite privileged from a global standpoint.
Either way, you're hardly a representative sample of one (1).
Nice to encounter a fellow PKD fan, of course. ;)
Depends. There are lots of people who aren't into Basketball or Football. But there are ~3B user who uses Facebook and Instagram. Technology has such a wide reach these days I would not be surprised if he is better known.
Although arguably Mark Zuckerberg dont get as much press as them.
But I dunno, he may just actually believe he's the most famous millennial ever. He's up there but I don't know how one could ever quantify that.
So… yes?
I think there's a better chance of Messi being known because there's more people in Europe and Latin America that are fans of football than corporations. Even Africa, soccer is quite a popular sport.
Now, for Asia, I'm not sure. That's where the game would be played.
In a lot of ways when these people say "the world" they mean the subset of people they actually care about. Mostly, US Americans and perhaps Canadians.
> The hubris of thinking you're representative of the world.
Indeed.
I have to imagine sports stars like you mentioned, or singers like Swift or Adele, or even movie stars are more well known than Zuck.
If you show Elon Musk the same will be true. Messi is more popular, not more known.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-d&geo=...
As expected, Biden and Trump as presidential candidates and former POTUS are better known. Messi has way better recognition than Lebron worldwide owing to soccer's broader appeal and popularity.
Search interest obviously isn't a direct correlation to name recognition - you can have recognition and no one is interested in you - but I'd say it's far more likely that people know who Lionel Messi is considering he won the World Cup in a spectacular fashion and 1.5B people watched the world cup live & I'm sure more than that many people heard about it.
No, it is not, but I'm willing to admit that my antipathy towards spectator sports may have led me astray here.