* Getting back content they've purchased that was removed by the vendor, or where their account with the vendor was closed without giving the customer a way to retrieve the things they've bought.
* content was not able to be purchased.
I haven't heard "beats paying" from anyone, almost everyone likes subscription music, Prime Video, Netflix and so on. Where the issues are is purchases, where people thought they bought something only to find out that they had a license that expires.
Example: I signed up for crunchyroll after I learned a show I wanted to watch was there.
Then after I paid, found out that on my country, it is not available.
Or when I bought a ton of books in fictionwise, then Barnes e noble bought them and restricted downloads only to people from USA. Funnily I only bought from that site because was the only site that sold to my country.
EDIT: Fixed typo "grow up".
Pirating music isn’t worth my time with Spotify Premium.
>the only thing I pirate is the occasional movie I want to watch that isn’t on Hulu, Netflix, Disney+, HBO Max or Amazon Prime Video.
You maintain 5 subscriptions and still have to pirate every now and again? I just watch whatever I want on plex+radarr/sonarr. That sounds exhausting.
I don't think I'll want to follow in your footsteps. Maybe I'll take out subscriptions for the things I really like, but I'm probably going to keep using pirated content for my actual consumption - its just a better experience at this point.
You can of course just “download everything” with sonarr and radarr, but then you’re maintaining a server at home with X hard drives to store all the content.
But yeah don’t pay for subscription services if you don’t want to.
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- beats paying, or too expensive - because I can lol - because fuck [insert company here] - because Plex is more convenient - because I want to apply an english subtitle/patch to it - because mods
none of my friends were banned from PSN/Netflix/Amazon/etc. It's just cheaper or more convinient for them.
granted, these were mostly for games, and there has yet to be a "Netflix for games" as of now.
I’ll pay for digital music on iTunes, which is DRM free, but won’t buy movies there, as the DRM means it’s only good as long as Apple decides to keep it going. As we move from people maintaining media libraries to streaming, it seems like it’s only a matter of time before those digital copies become worthless.
I think there's another component though. The megacorps that provide streaming video are so far removed from the actual creators, it almost feels like the right thing to do is to avoid lining their pockets with more profit. This is a stark contrast to music, where you have small groups of people you actively want to support.
Given the friction to paying for the music you want is so low and the relationship is more "personal" it just has a different feel.
I have ample money and subscribe to netflix, amazon prime and something else I forgot (I hardly watch tv).
I never pirate music anymore - Spotify is perfect. I have a family subscription.
I subscribe to Youtube because I like the content free from ads.
Netflix is getting worse and worse so someday I will stop the subscription and get the content via BitTorrent
The exception for me is old stuff. I have exactly zero qualms about not paying for a forty year old movie. Half the actors are dead anyway. The film studio doesn't need or deserve my money for something nobody alive had anything to do with.
I do blanket pirate music, though. There doesn't seem to be a way for me to buy music without 99.999% of the money going to a label or a studio. Apart from bandcamp and other indie stores, but those typically aren't my jam in the first place. If I could support artists directly, I would. But I can't, and I refuse to support predatory labels, so I don't. I do feel a little bad about it, but options are limited.
Oh, and I will gleefully pirate textbooks, of course. Also research papers and most nonfiction in general. Audiobooks and fiction are a hard no unless unavailable or older than I am. Everyone should pirate textbooks always, it's only just.
So yeah, mostly for ideological reasons and the incomparable convenience.
I also don't have to worry about my favorite shows disappearing from the service on a whim. The files on my server will always be available to me.
I've had artists send me mp3 in the morning after I gave them cash at a concert the night before. :-)
In one country show X is available on service Y - in another it’s available on service Z, in another it’s not available at all.
However, they are always available on Torrentleech and The Pirate Bay.
I stopped pirating music when Spotify came to the US. It’s proof that people will pay for things if A) the price is reasonable and B) consumption is convenient. Why? Pirating content is inconvenient. Popcorn Time was as close as it got to “convenient” but that was quickly shut down/abandoned.
yup, and the cost there is instead put on the artist. Who don't make any reasonable money but need to do it "for exposure".
I'm not surprised movies and games didn't follow. game devs and actors don't get paid tiny residuals, but instead are paid upfront.
When I was young, I pirated because I was broke.
When I got a job and grew older, I would continue to pirate, because it was annoying to shuffle through a DVD collection or for the game the disk to put into the drive bay for a game that was already installed on the computer's hard disk. I regularly downloaded no-cd cracks for games I had legally bought, and if I'm going to be fucking around with shady executables from disreputable corners of the internet anyway, I might as well save myself a car trip to the mall.
When Netflix streaming became ubiquitous and Steam became good, I stopped pirating, because it was more convenient to do media legally than it was to pirate them.
Now that Netflix has been Balkanized into a dozen competing services, all of which are shitty, I pirate TV/movies again, because it is more convenient to always know what site to go to to acquire media. I subscribe to Amazon prime for the free shipping, but even for media which is available on Amazon Prime, I still pirate it because -- wait for it -- the DRM doesn't work.
I still buy games on Steam because it's easy and convenient. If Ubisoft and EA get their way and cut into Steam's market share and make it so there are too few games available to play on Steam, or games that I've already paid for start becoming un-bought from my library, or Steam starts becoming unusable due to onerous DRM, I'll start pirating again.
Music is more complicated. In the '90s I ripped all my CDs into MP3s, and burned them onto data CDs which I put into a big ass CD changer in the trunk of my car. Later on, I could fit all of them on a DVD in the head unit. Later on, I could put them all on a USB thumb stick which I plugged into the console. As time went on, I realized I wasn't engaging with my music in any meaningful way. I'd turn it on and hit random and literally never think about what I was listening to. So I've picked up vinyl specifically because it's less convenient. I have to actually think about what music I want to listen to, and then actively make a decision.
So do I pirate movies and TV because I like free stuff? Not really. I probably spent in the ballpark of $50 on games a month, maybe $200 on music per month. I have the money to pay for video media. But the last thing I watched was the Legend of Vox Machina, which is produced by Amazon Studios specifically for Amazon Prime Video, which I already pay for, and I pirated it anyway because it's more convenient.
So do I pirate movies and TV for ideological reasons? Not really. I mean, don't get me wrong, Hollywood is kinda gross, but so is the video games industry and the music industry.
Sorry for rambling. I guess my point is that it's incorrect to set this up as a dichotomy between getting free shit and sticking it to the man. For me at least, it's neither of those things.