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Yeah, sure... we heard that crap before on the Malvinas/Falklands. Didn't work very well for Argentina, did it? Btw, Guyana is part of the British Commonwealth, just saying...

If your logic makes any sense then why don't you Venezuelans return your country to the natives and kick all the European descendants out? White people stole the land from the Waayu and Timoto-cuicas, right?

The fact that the brits won the war doesn't make the Argentinian claim on the Falklands less valid.

> you Venezuelans

I'm no Venezuelan.

Even if it was stolen long ago then it is not a valid or good reason to start a war.

Who decides if it's justified or not? The same countries that stole the land? The countries that waged countless unjustified wars of oppression based on lies? The countries who would now like to exploit that land?

In this case: it was my opinion, person with minuscule influence on foreign policy.

But "war is pretty bad idea" is a widely shared opinion, as war is pretty bad one.

> The same countries that stole the land? The countries that waged countless unjustified wars of oppression based on lies?

Yes, these countries. Approximately all countries stole land (even if this land was stolen from Venezuela: guess how Venezuela acquired it? and "give it back to local tribes" does not work, because they stole it from other tribes).

Also, approximately all countries waged some unjustified wars of oppression based on lies.

Is it worth killing people over? Or instead of behaving like chimps could we just figure it out by talking?

Talking only takes you so far when two parties have conflicting goals.

1. "We want that"

2. "No"

return to step 1

And all the while you’re figuring out how to compromise nobody is dying. Eventually, people figure something out and move on with their lives, because most people have no desire to spend their life in conflict.

Ask this to the USA, to Canada or to the UK, not to me or Venezuela.

Venezuela signed an arbitration that seems to release their claims on the land

The arbitration was rigged in favor of the brits, then nullified after the truth came out in 1949.

Who did Venezuela steal the land from?

Nobody. In fact Venezuela gained independence from the colonizers in 1811. The Spanish and the German originally stole that land from the native populations. Venezuelans are neither Spanish or German.

Yeah, let's start a war with the british or whomever over some bullshit land nobody cares about. Let me just grab some popcorn so I can enjoy the fireworks.

I mean come on, dude. These communists can't even manage to develop the land they already have. And they're looking to start wars with developed nations? Over this nonsense? It's comical.

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