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They did an interview with the guys from NYT's Hard Fork (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hard-fork/id1528594034...).

When asked what their act of protest was against, they said "cars in general." They're very anti-car and, although they acknowledge that self-driving cars will be much safer in the long term and could transform a world full of wasteful single-car ownership, they are adamant that cars shouldn't exist.

Yes, they're in their 20s and enjoy riding their bikes in San Francisco.

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They argue for "public transit, walking and bikes" according to their website. Bikes are mainly how they choose to protest, but they want accessible public transit. Your last sentence is phrased like a "gotcha" but seems like a disingenuous way to say that young members of the community are organizing over this cause.

Or maybe would be disingenuous to think that public transport would cover for all places a car today can go. The world is not only made of urban sprawl.

Self driving cars will lower the costs of having a roaming fleet out looking for fares down to near zero. It will be disastrous for cities in terms of congestion and emissions.

Why would they have to roam? In a country like Switzerland where public transportation is ubiquitous in a lot of cases buses cannot be the answer because density or usage (for instance during the night) is too low. On demand bus are costly and rather ineffective, so there is no question that on demand car will meet an important need.

They roam to avoid parking charges whilst being near potential pick up locations.

Public transport is the solution but I see that as less likely than mass self driving cars in US cities (how depressing)

Thats easily fixed by regulation. Theres no way such inefficient use of public resources will be allowed.

That easily fixed by [something that's nearly impossible to do in today's car-centric political climate].

I hope so, but have you seen the current state of Phoenix? LA? NYC?

Not recently, why?

Just rode SF public transit from airport and there was human urine on the floor. It’s anecdotal, but still … ew. Public transit only works when done right.

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