And no, most progressives are not working class, and basically none of them are lower class. That's pure vanity; the belief that you, a wealthy person, stand as a tribune for a group of people you yourself are not a part of. A group you're imagining in your mind.
Waiters and bartenders, for instance, are not progressives. They're either anarcho-syndicalists or they want to own the bar.
No one, but I mean no one, wants to live in the world imagined by upper-middle-class whites wherein "equity" means we should all give up stuff for people with [spew of bullshit about "disproportionately climate challenged communities of historically marginalized buzzword buzzword bullshit"]. That's just you. The rest of us, like immigrants? We think you're fucking ridiculous.
Sorry, but that's simply 100% wrong. I know enough progressives from the strata you're talking about to disprove that anecdotally - you'd have to show me data to convince me otherwise.
> Waiters and bartenders, for instance, are not progressives. They're either anarcho-syndicalists or they want to own the bar.
This shows how much you're simplifying the world. No, not literally all waiters and bartenders fall into one of those camps.
> No one, but I mean no one, wants to live in the world imagined by upper-middle-class whites wherein "equity" means we should all give up stuff for people with [spew of bullshit about "disproportionately climate challenged communities of historically marginalized buzzword buzzword bullshit"]. That's just you. The rest of us, like immigrants? We think you're fucking ridiculous.
Given what you write here I don't think it makes sense to continue this conversation. Have a nice day.
That said capitalism is a near religion in the US and “runs things” for both the left and right in the government.
As for your comment—I think you’re conflating tribalism especially as enabled on social media with actual religion.
My issue with the Progressive "tribe" is that it looks at the other tribes, concludes to some degree correctly that they're a bunch of illiterate fascists, and then declares that anti-capitalist economic leveling and socialist reeducation are the only possible cure. Their small-d democratic credentials are hardly better than those of the guy with the horns.
It's been about 15 years of social media, and it's hard not to take it as a gauge of true political sentiment at this point. There aren't a lot of other outlets where we get to hear what people are thinking. But I do go to a lot of bars, both in deep red Oregon country and in ultra-blue Portland, and I'm not actually on social media, so I'm basing this off what I hear from people in person over a drink, not stuff I read on X/Twitter.
Simply put: In PDX, I own two cars, I'm evil. In Salem, I'm a Jewish liberal, I'm evil.
I've come to the conclusion that they're all idiots.