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I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore", but as long as Microsoft continues to try and jam it down my throat at any conceivable opportunity, I will continue to refuse to even consider it.

Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox, I was greeted with an inescapable fullscreen page that hid away the other browser tabs (i.e. the page I was trying to view) until I clicked through their idiotic "welcome to edge" bs. Sometimes lately it really feels like Microsoft is taking classes on how to piss off their users as much as possible.

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That’s a Microsoft special. A big, stupid splash page which requires you to wait for it to load, and then the only option to make it go away is to click. (You can’t hit escape, for instance.) Microsoft does this in so many of their products, it must be baked into the company somehow. Often, the screen will come up indefinitely, no matter how many times you click “don’t show me this again.” I can only imagine that their UI teams have little plaques on their walls which read “Let’s do a bad job on purpose."

"Don't show this again" is a thing of the past it seems. I installed Windows 11 fresh on a new machine not long ago and after refusing all the sign-ins and cloud this or that when installing, I log in and am greeted with "let's finish setting up Windows": a window full of all the OneDrive and other features I already declined and whose only options are "continue" and "remind me tomorrow".

And then, after finally figuring out the option buried deep in Windows settings to disable that window every time I turn the computer on, I subsequently discovered it had apparently ignored all my requests to not set up OneDrive and was syncing all my user folders to the cloud anyhow.

I never made the switch from 10 to 11 and everything I've heard tells me that I made the absolutely correct decision. (I only have Windows at all for my video games.) If MS discontinues support for Windows 10 or tries to force me to go to 11, then I will simply switch to only using Linux, video games be damned.

i had this exact thing happen yesterday. the task manager refuses to kill edge

Oh wow. That's bad.

I echo your concerns, and add that I find it slightly humorous Edge is also being offered on Linux. I've spent hours working to remove it from Windows; why would I willingly install it?

> I echo your concerns, and add that I find it slightly humorous Edge is also being offered on Linux. I've spent hours working to remove it from Windows; why would I willingly install it?

because you have a choice :) I installed it on Fedora from flathub iirc

Internet Explorer 5 also had a few UNIX releases.

Internet Explorer was, for a brief time, the default browser in macOS as well

A work environment where you're mandated to use it, wanting to test against it, wanting to see if some of the things in it are good (AI sidebar for example)

1. Makes things like the Teams PWA easy in linux.

2. Allows me to access browser tabs and searches from work logins etc.

> Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser

Google is also very persistent about this--any time you use Gmail in a non-Chrome browser, they pop up alerts to try to convince you to use Chrome instead.

> I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore"

Whenever I said that in the past it was because it was a competent, nicely implemented alternative to Chrome. A real surprise.

Then they lost their fucking minds, same with Windows, and well... I don't say that anymore.

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