Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
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The probationary period they were under has now expired.
Someone will indeed need to sue them again to make them behave reasonably.
It's merely changing the 'window dressing' or facade that is the 'chrome' around the iOS web rendering engine.
Are you actually hibernating it, or doing the "hybrid sleep" thing, which only sleeps and then hibernates? In my case (Arch) the default for hybrid sleep is to keep it in sleep state for quite a while, whereas windows shuts down fairly quickly when unplugged.
Actual hibernation is shutting the computer completely off, so I'd be curious to know how one OS could have a different power consumption than another.
The way I found out is this one time I left work with my laptop under windows and asleep.When I arrived home an hour later, it had to go through the full bios setup (which you can't miss since it's ridiculously slow) and then it went and booted Linux (it's the default boot setup). When I rebooted back to windows, I found my previous stuff open. Since this happened again a few times, I figured it was normal behavior.
My default Linux install won't automatically hibernate while asleep as long as the battery is above some threshold, like 10%. And since the computer doesn't support S3, only "modern standby", it will chew through the battery like no tomorrow.
To diagnose hibernation issues, I'd double check the kernel command line (resume=<disk or inode>) argument. That it's still the right location.
It's a right pain as it means when I get an authentication popup I can't use my integrated password manager like I can with say Slack's authentication popups.
(yes I know that integrating browsers with pw managers are bad)
I switched my mother-in-law (nearly 70 years old) to a Chromebook and I made my SO switch her little PME from Windows to Ubuntu more than a year ago and she has zero issue.
As for the rest of my family, they kept calling me on the phone over the years with Windows issue and... I made them all buy Mac computers.
Life is better without Microsoft.
Seems almost as close as you could get.
Then later,
> Microsoft needs to make Edge better instead
I can assure you that it will quite happily show you any sites you want, though Google will attempt to get you to install Chrome.
But the author wrote both parts. The author clearly likes those features in a browser, and already thinks Microsoft is doing a good job of making the browser better with more features.
If they do feel like a browser needs to be bundled, why not just add a minimalist, privacy focused browser. The goal should be to have tech savvy people tell friends and family to "Just use Edge and you'll be fine".
It is just to drive people to Bing? If that's the case, just promote Bing, it's a good search engine.
The growing Chrome/Blink monoculture is one of the biggest threats to the web right now in a way worse than IE6 ever was, and by switching to Chromium from EdgeHTML, Microsoft only made the problem worse.
Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox, I was greeted with an inescapable fullscreen page that hid away the other browser tabs (i.e. the page I was trying to view) until I clicked through their idiotic "welcome to edge" bs. Sometimes lately it really feels like Microsoft is taking classes on how to piss off their users as much as possible.
because you have a choice :) I installed it on Fedora from flathub iirc
2. Allows me to access browser tabs and searches from work logins etc.
And then, after finally figuring out the option buried deep in Windows settings to disable that window every time I turn the computer on, I subsequently discovered it had apparently ignored all my requests to not set up OneDrive and was syncing all my user folders to the cloud anyhow.
Google is also very persistent about this--any time you use Gmail in a non-Chrome browser, they pop up alerts to try to convince you to use Chrome instead.
Whenever I said that in the past it was because it was a competent, nicely implemented alternative to Chrome. A real surprise.
Then they lost their fucking minds, same with Windows, and well... I don't say that anymore.
Edge has gotten better.
And
When they incorporated GPT, it was pretty cool. It already seems old now, just a few weeks later, but at the time, remember people were freaking out how great ChatGPT was, it seemed incredible. We've had a few weeks to cool off and start critiquing it. But when GPT was incorporated into Edge, edge adoption shot up, I think I saw stat that it was 100 million users. I even showed wife (non-tech) how to put in a few prompts and it would generate some letter she needed to write. It did seem incredible.
So just stepping back, Edge has incrementally improved, then they incorporated a big new feature "GPT", and adoption took off. ---> So the increased users was not just by marketing, and anti-trust practices, and splash screens.
They're free and they don't waste my time.
Stopping them permanently is going to take stronger action. Maybe breaking up the company.
And they added a whole bunch of features that are the responsibility of the OS:
* collections
* workspaces
* split screen
* browser essentials
* Web capture
I expected the new Edge to be the same but to y surprise it has became very slow nowadays.
That said, they are big tech, they are all and the same.
It's about control.
There was a joint collaboration between a lot of companies on 'chromium' (wasn't it webkit before?) and then that relationship soured and each forked it to their own browser. (I think Apple forked it first). It wasn't like the 'engine' was just some small open source project with beautiful code that MS stole.
I also think you are little conflating the front end renderer, from 'web engine'. MS doesn't use the Google search engine.
Edit>> Had order wrong. Apple and Google were working together on WebKit. But Google forked off first (blink). Safari continued on with WebKit. Google eventually re-branded Chromium, then MS Edge used Chromium. The point being, this was not a small indie open source project that MS stole as some anti-MS comments kind of hint at. All 3 big players were putting engineering time into these engines. This cartoon diagram might help. Wiki has a more detailed one.
https://twitter.com/vladquant/status/1492181669788356611/pho...
No. Apple created Safari using WebKit (an Apple fork of KHTML). It was Chrome which was created based on WebKit (and eventually Google forked Webkit into Blink).
At one point in time, Apple and Google were both working on this, and I had order wrong, Google was the one that forked first to go off and do their own thing that became Chromium, which then went on to be used by Edge. And Safari continued on with different fork, (or maybe trunk? it has split so many times, not really sure how is forking who).
"" On April 3, 2013, Google announced that it would produce a fork of WebKit's WebCore component, to be named Blink. Chrome's developers decided on the fork to allow greater freedom in implementing WebCore's features in the browser without causing conflicts upstream, and to allow simplifying its codebase by removing code for WebCore components unused by Chrome. In relation to Opera Software's announcement earlier in the year that it would switch to WebKit by means of the Chromium codebase, it was confirmed that the Opera web browser would also switch to Blink.[44] Following the announcement, WebKit developers began discussions on removing Chrome-specific code from the engine to streamline its codebase.[80] WebKit no longer has any Chrome specific code (e.g., buildsystem, V8 JavaScript engine hooks, platform code, etc.). ""
Here are Wiki pages to read up on the subject.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_wars