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There's trend amongst the start up crowd to turn to abstinence from alcohol. Wonder where it leads?

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Back to Chumbawamba blaring and excess in ~20 years.

Born Slippy too!

Life doesn't nee to be all or nothing. No reason for abstinence unless one has a problem.

Plenty of reason for it. Even small amounts are toxic and raise your risk of cancer, liver disease, f*k up your sleep etc.

Living raises your risk of cancer, liver diseases, even f*ks up your sleep at times. I'd rather enjoy life than be risk-adverse.

Can be said about many of the things we partake in that evoke pleasure.

Not really. e.g. caffeine and nicotine don’t have harmful side effects. Neither do spending time with your friends or loved ones.

I'll just leave this here before you continue spouting more nonsense

Harmful effects of nicotine

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/

I'm sure even a cursory search for caffeine will reveal some harmful side effects as well. Especially for people with certain conditions

Caffeine increases blood pressure and is associated with arrhythmia. It also disrupts sleep, causing caffeine-induced sleep disorder. Prolonged consumption of caffeine results in dependence, causing withdrawal when dosage is reduced.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5445139/

Caffeine impairs your quality of sleep taken too close to bed, where “too close” is after 12pm.

This. The half life of caffeine is ridiculous, compared to our assumptions.

Computer use has health side effects

Sun

Air

Cars

Electricity

Lack of universal healthcare

Industrial Development

Politicians

Life is the leading cause of death

While I agree with you, moderation works with some of these. It doesn’t work with alcohol.

There are valid reasons to avoid alcohol even without an addiction.

There are also valid reason not to avoid it. I never claimed people should drink. But there's nothing wrong if they want to.

Plenty of reasons. Is to consider consumption of alcohol a norm a problem?

Personally, I just don’t enjoy the effects of alcohol. I don’t like feeling fuzzy-headed or dehydrated. So, although I do love the taste of scotch or red wine, I rarely have them.

It leads to straightedge and bad music. …and violence/fighting somehow too.

but occasionally microdosing LSD

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