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> 1. Anytime you give someone freedom to create (anything), you will end up with a penis drawing. Just scrolling through quickly I see that Frame #13122 delivers on this law of the universe. After watching the movie preview, I only watched the first 45-50 seconds and counted about 4-5 drawings of the bodypart and 6-8 additional frames that just contain the word "penis". I wouldn't be surprised if 2-4% of the total frames submitted contain this specific content.

Are there any YC startups specializing in detecting penises? They can probably help.

Not sure whether you were specifically referencing it, but this was made for an episode of Silicon Valley, and is also a real, functional app.

On the show, it was originally created for detecting hot dogs, but found a second (and far more lucrative) life as a penis detector.

https://www.engadget.com/2017-05-15-not-hotdog-app-hbo-silic...

More technical discussion here: https://medium.com/@timanglade/how-hbos-silicon-valley-built...

> Are there any YC startups specializing in detecting penises?

I’m sure Reddit had developed, tested, and perfected this technology.

I mean what the hell else have they been working on for the past 18 years?

Breakthroughs in PR?

Ragecomics

When I worked in games in the late 2000s the rumour* about why Minecraft was able to come in and do what everyone knew that Lego should have been doing (a multi-player online block-building game), was that they spent so long trying to create a Lego penis detector that they missed their opportunity.

* - I cannot verify this, so take it with a pinch of small white cubes

Turns out a simple Google search would have confirmed it rolleyes

https://mcvuk.com/business-news/publishing/former-lego-dev-p....

> “It was all automated, but the human moderators were, if I remember correctly, the single biggest cost center for Lego Universe’s operational costs,” said Fox.

https://github.com/studiomoniker/Quickdraw-appendix

https://github.com/ccaldarella99/hotdog_not_hotdog

https://pury.fi/

I know that Discord has a poor implementation of this technology. I once spent 10 minutes trying to upload a photograph before I realized that a pig’s snout was tripping its indecency detector. I had to put a black bar across the offending area to bypass it. It must be a feature channel operators can turn on?

I don't even know if external links to Twitter work any longer, but Elon claims that Twitter has a "dick pic bot": (maybe joking?)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1678143935976464384?s=20

He would be pretty aware since he’s always engaged in a dick measuring contest.

From now on I'm calling this Jacurtis' Law

2-4% of unreviewed content shall be phallic..?

It even applies to the Blue Origin rocket.

Good one - the law of unintended peny.

These are not problems.

I agree. While commendable, OP complicates matters greatly by declaring war on indecency and incompetence. What’s wrong with penises and bad drawings?

Seriously. People spend thousands to travel to Pompeii and walk through tittering about how naughty the Romans were. It's not as if those Romans were any different from the guy drawing dicks on a blank webpage. And if 2 measly millennia is all it takes to confer archaeological significance on phallic graffiti, why not just get ahead of the herd, take the long view (so to speak), and appreciate your own culture in all its messy future significance in the here and now?

There's nothing wrong with it morally, at least in my opinion.

There's just the practical issue of how to deal with all the penis drawings.

Also, it is just annoying behavior. People think they are being funny, but it is the equivalent of a child writing P O O P everywhere. It is mildly fun for them, but tiresome for everyone else. It isn't in the spirit of the group effort, and just takes the fun out of it for people who actually want to make something.

I guess penises do not belong to the movie being drawn.

Well, the problem is some of those aren't even drawings. Some minimum effort should be made even if you don't want to trace the frame.

So nice penises are ok?

by allowing penis drawings it pulls any artwork generated to be penis focused. Crowdsourced art suffers if it can only ever be about the penis is mightier than the sword.

Bad drawings likewise limit the aesthetic of what is possible.

> by allowing penis drawings it pulls any artwork generated to be penis focused

As demonstrated by this conversation, Q.E.D

> Bad drawings likewise limit the aesthetic of what is possible

Are we to reason about aesthetics?

It is if your goal is to recreate Bee Movie.

By claiming those are not problems, I can present 60,000-ish frames of random scribbles and call it a reproduction of Bee Movie.

There should be some effort made to actually achieve the stated goal.

And while the occasional one-off joke frame could be funny, everyone wants to be that guy. So the thing becomes nothing but a string of joke frames, most of which are not even remotely funny.

Seriously, it's not like they are trying to win an Oscar. If someone puts a random penis in the middle - great, it makes the work all that more interesting. That is what crowdsourced art is all about.

Yeah I mean the whole thing could be done with an ffmpeg one-liner if that was the goal, but emergent web phenomena like this are rare and few between. Reminds me of the million dollar homepage.

Seriously... This is MSCHF, they basically do social experiments. Seeing how people use/abuse this is part of the plan.

> There really should be a minimum "ink" or "coverage" amount before determining that a frame has been given a proper amount of effort in the drawing.

I know what you mean and I agree, but your example of measuring ink usage reminds me of measuring a programmer's productivity by counting the number of lines of code they've written. What would be the equivalent of deleting lines, though?

While lines of code is not a good way to measure productivity, it is not useless. I’ve used it to uncover situations where people were struggling with work. It’s a heuristic which can be used to draw your attention to areas which could be problematic.

Ink coverage could be used the same way here.

I think a solution could be everyone votes for the best frames.

Then those artists are called back to work on the frames people made bad.

Yep! You need a kind of review process and some incentives. Not that difficult to implement.

You give several people the same frame to draw, then you just have everyone pick their favourite. The one with the least votes can be temporarily shadow banned from their next drawing appearing as an option. Alternatively, you can reward the one with the most votes.

But honestly, maybe just allowing people to choose the frame they like might be enough and you don't even need to do much more.

Isn't this basically how we got Boaty McBoatface?

> Anytime you give someone freedom to create (anything), you will end up with a penis drawing

Well yes

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/giant-penis-coronation-par...

All of these will likely be solved by manually flicking through and re-adding bad frames to the drawing queue.

A great solution would be one where maybe after drawing a frame one could choose between two frames of the movie that which one better represents the original / is better or funnier in their mind.

How about just have multiple people draw a single frame, average it out, if it still is significantly different from the 2 prior and 2 subsequent frames, throw it out and have it drawn again?

Can you link to the frame? I can't see the option to view a specific frame.

Such cool inputs to the product. Are you a product manager in the drawing app like Photoshop or Procreate?

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