The Free Movie
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1. Anytime you give someone freedom to create (anything), you will end up with a penis drawing. Just scrolling through quickly I see that Frame #13122 delivers on this law of the universe. After watching the movie preview, I only watched the first 45-50 seconds and counted about 4-5 drawings of the bodypart and 6-8 additional frames that just contain the word "penis". I wouldn't be surprised if 2-4% of the total frames submitted contain this specific content.
2. It says that all frames have been drawn, but in fact they are far from complete. Many people have submitted blank frames or frames with one line scribble. There really should be a minimum "ink" or "coverage" amount before determining that a frame has been given a proper amount of effort in the drawing.
3. People have wildly different artistic capabilities. Which sounds like part of the fun, but in practice many of these frames are so bad, that watching them back to back just looks like a static mess.
4. Not a problem, but there are also some AMAZING submissions in here that are awesome to see. I wish those people could be allowed to submit additional frames. Maybe enough "upvotes" on their existing frames and they get to create another frame.
5. We need to crowdsource a review process. It would be good to allow people to either A) draw a frame, which is a smaller portion of the population or B) review an existing frame for content and quality. This allows everyone to contribute to the movie in a way that they are capable. Reviewers could be shown a frame with a few buttons such as: blank, low effort drawing, inaccurate drawing, inappropriate drawing (see #1). If a frame gets a high ratio of similar negative reviews then we know to put it back into the rotation to be redrawn.
5. Just because all frames have been drawn, there should be the option to resubmit an alternative for low-effort or blank frames. These are easy to find, so I should be able to submit a second drawing that gets queued behind the original in case the original gets rejected through the review system (which a blank frame easily would).
Overall the concept is really cool. These tips above would solve most of the core problems and make it a better experience for everyone.
Are there any YC startups specializing in detecting penises? They can probably help.
On the show, it was originally created for detecting hot dogs, but found a second (and far more lucrative) life as a penis detector.
https://www.engadget.com/2017-05-15-not-hotdog-app-hbo-silic...
More technical discussion here: https://medium.com/@timanglade/how-hbos-silicon-valley-built...
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1678143935976464384?s=20
I’m sure Reddit had developed, tested, and perfected this technology.
I mean what the hell else have they been working on for the past 18 years?
* - I cannot verify this, so take it with a pinch of small white cubes
https://mcvuk.com/business-news/publishing/former-lego-dev-p....
> “It was all automated, but the human moderators were, if I remember correctly, the single biggest cost center for Lego Universe’s operational costs,” said Fox.
I know what you mean and I agree, but your example of measuring ink usage reminds me of measuring a programmer's productivity by counting the number of lines of code they've written. What would be the equivalent of deleting lines, though?
Ink coverage could be used the same way here.
Bad drawings likewise limit the aesthetic of what is possible.
As demonstrated by this conversation, Q.E.D
> Bad drawings likewise limit the aesthetic of what is possible
Are we to reason about aesthetics?
There's just the practical issue of how to deal with all the penis drawings.
Also, it is just annoying behavior. People think they are being funny, but it is the equivalent of a child writing P O O P everywhere. It is mildly fun for them, but tiresome for everyone else. It isn't in the spirit of the group effort, and just takes the fun out of it for people who actually want to make something.
By claiming those are not problems, I can present 60,000-ish frames of random scribbles and call it a reproduction of Bee Movie.
There should be some effort made to actually achieve the stated goal.
And while the occasional one-off joke frame could be funny, everyone wants to be that guy. So the thing becomes nothing but a string of joke frames, most of which are not even remotely funny.
Then those artists are called back to work on the frames people made bad.
You give several people the same frame to draw, then you just have everyone pick their favourite. The one with the least votes can be temporarily shadow banned from their next drawing appearing as an option. Alternatively, you can reward the one with the most votes.
But honestly, maybe just allowing people to choose the frame they like might be enough and you don't even need to do much more.
Well yes
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/giant-penis-coronation-par...
The original episode explores how animation is made by having the characters remake the first episode, so it's doubly meta that the fans have reanimated it.
> The Free Movie is not about quality– in fact, that interpretation, that rawness, is the specific terroir want in the final film. To paraphrase MSCHF: shitty things are good.
Yes, there are better ways to rotoscope a movie than unmoderated crowdsourcing. So what? Not everything has to be over-engineered and optimized for 150% user experience. Considering how it was made, I think this is actually surprisingly watchable.
There are so many frames where there was no attempt made.
And the FAQ says nothing about that. It does not say that trolling other users is the point. The point is to troll Dreamworks/Paramount by stealing their movie in the weirdest way possible.
It would be cool to do some followup projects. "Ok, that was try 1, now we'll add some basic moderation." It would be great to see visually how well that would work. "Ok, how about meta-moderation?" For a fairly niche project, my guess is that that would be enough to get to a presentable product without any fullscreen "Poop!"s. Then you do "ok, that was cool but the quality was kind of poor, let's incentivize with small amounts of actual cash."
It would be fascinating. Call it "How the Web Melts, Illustrated".
I think just adding some kind of moderation, for example allowing people to select the best frames out of a set of frames and so on, might be enough to get a much higher quality product.
If they were fully shaded frames it would work, but hairlines I have no idea.
Also I observed that some frames left a dark background white, and others filled in a dark background as black. So you'd have to set up a lot of drawing "rules" to ensure it was even conceptually meaningful to generate an average in the first place.
Distance fields would work great for font outlines, but not for translating movie frames.
Pass the reference frame and each candidate drawing through a CNN. Measure the cosine similarity between the candidate embedding and the reference embedding. Flag drawings that fall below a threshold.
Pass candidates through CLIP. Flag images with obvious garbage descriptions.
They pick the worst one.
Throw in a control once in a awhile.
Eventually you’ll have a sorted list of the best to the worst frames. Have the worst ones redrawn.
However, if you let it run too long, you might get a Pixar film.
Fun alternative: show artists the best images. Eventually it will be gamed and it will become the Bee Penis film.
For each frame, get at least 4 different drawings.
For voters, show them 2-4 frames and have them pick the best one.
If there are more than 4 versions of a frame, do a bracket-based competition to determine the best frame.
This could be an ongoing process. Generate a version of the movie using the best available frames, but continue allowing people to redraw frames. The movie would continue getting better and better over time.
Then, when you watch the movie, maybe you could have a slider to control which "generation" of the movie you're watching. Slide all the way to the left and it will be really primitive, slide all the way to the right and it will be the best version.
Is it legal to distribute the stitched together frames without audio?
Do you think this project is going to get DMCAd off the internet?
Is it legal, as a transformative use? Probably not. Andy Warhol's estate just lost a fair use case in the U.S. Supreme Court.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/may/18/andy-wa...
Warhol copied a portrait. Totally different issue.
"The supreme court [lol @ Anti-American Grauniad] focused on the specific use that allegedly infringed Goldsmith’s copyright – a license of Warhol’s work to Condé Nast – and said it was not transformative because it served the same commercial purpose as Goldsmith’s photo: to depict Prince in a magazine."
It is nonsense to claim the Guardian is anti American because their style guide eschews capitalisation. They also refer to the “UK supreme court” and to “the king” without excess capitalisation.
It's also possible they got permission, or even that they were paid to make this. MSCHF is well funded.
https://unofficialbird.com/fatalfarm/status/1416117865594249...
https://unofficialbird.com/Maffewgregg/status/12518177693367...
I seem to recall years ago that 4chan's tv board, and possible the reddit equivalent, was working on a redraw of the the infamous "Plane Scene" from The Dark Knight rises. I wonder what ever happened with that.
But it looks like a lot of the preview frames are empty or just bad words.
The credits look amazing.
Another name is the pattern of "/a/ draws", "/v/ draws", "r/anime draws", etc, from 4chan. Those would be the most similar ones to OP in terms of mspaint-like quality and quantity of penises[2].
[1] overview and a decent directory: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Multi_Animator_Project
[2] archived results page with no personalization: https://archive.is/80U5G
Anyway, if anyone wants to see a Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon movie that functions as a projector for the album, I edited this together and you guys may be into it: https://odysee.com/DSOPiQ I added an intro and some other stuff to mess with you but it can effect the projection substantially so if you want to skip it, go straight to 7:34 (don't go less than that otherwise you might get something)
I just wish that others didn't abuse the site. Unfortunately I saw a swastika in the playback.
A voting system? Maybe with a voter reliability score? AI?
Turns out they just didn't, and the result is exactly what you'd expect.
Will the voices be dubbed by the community aswell? If not, how does this evade the copyright issue?