I’d be happy to see the FBI take that role on for federal assignments _if_ that reduced budgets and the current rot was excised in some meaningful way with mechanisms put in place to hold individuals accountable.
(Actually, I don't know about any country where it's completely civilian up to now. But that's not something I ever looked.)
Seinfeld - Newman interrogates Jerry--Mail fraud : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDmA2xoIoFU
There definitely needs to be cuts in 3 letter federal agencies. They're out of control.
In the end though, it doesn't matter because eventually over time all of those agencies with too much power will become corrupt. Massive oversight and constant cleaning out of people that have been entrenched too long is necessary.
If you want to envision some kind of Utopian view of law enforcement then there is the simple problem of 'who watches the watchers', a question that has been bugging us since antiquity and which I don't think we'll see an effective solution to in this life (or the next). Every law enforcement body consists of people and people are fallible, and will always be fallible. So you need to accept that and design accordingly, and you also will need to accept that mistakes (small ones and much larger and graver ones) will be made, as well as abuses of power.
To re-architect a police force in the United States that transcends the states is an undertaking that in the current political climate is undoable. So advocating for abandoning the FBI effectively advocates for abandoning federal policing in general, and that certainly isn't going to have a net positive effect.
No. We won't.
You're going to give the FBI's responsibilities and tools to a new agency? It'll be crystal clear how it will develop the next day.
DHS was formed in 2002. By 2003 what we in the public would later know as "extraordinary rendition" became commonplace.
I think you guys are all being naive. Or maybe you guys really are just this innocent that you believe in the inability of newly formed agencies to act with capability and resolve.
Which would be especially simple in a situation where we get rid of the facility for investigating wrongdoing among law enforcement agencies. Which is, (checks notes), Ah, the FBI.
I'd be very careful following anyone telling us that the FBI is not enough. They've done it before, and we ended up with the Patriot Act. Then they told us the problem was not only the FBI, but CIA too! That landed us with a DHS and a FISA court that is illegal for us to even ask information on.
Think long and hard guys, about who exactly are the true people behind all these calls for new, more comprehensive agencies. And what their ultimate goals might be.
jaquesm is speaking reason here. There is no sane point to disbanding the FBI. They're doing their job. If they have made a mistake you don't like. File a complaint. You can even contact your congressperson. But disbanding them is not a reasonable option.
Instead they get blank checks and too much authority.
I saw more calls for disbanding recently along news items discrediting it ( for a good reason, but let me finish this sentence ) and in next breath proposing federal police replacing state enforcement.
I personally do not think it is a good idea. I like the idea of oversight ( and one that does not hide behind 'national security' ).
You don't need it in a world without modern technology. Not that you can have it. Technology is this enslaving, centralizing force which leads to all this... everything. Abolish it.